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Booster silicone pipes - Crap! #1429869
27/05/2013 15:12
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I replaced all the coolant hoses on my car around 2000 miles ago with a set of the group buy Booster silicone hoses.

Last night, the hose of death exploded and dumped all the coolant, so even though these are supposedly silicone, they're shit!

I bet the stock hose would have lasted a whole lot longer, so anyone having these hoses, I'd replace at least the hose of death for something better.

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1429872
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Sorry to hear this mate Where has the hose failed is it a split is it at jubilee clips is it near the hose retaining clip on engine?

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1429876
27/05/2013 15:59
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It split around the hose clip at the thermostat.

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1429878
27/05/2013 16:14
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Sorry to hear this!
Take a look HERE

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: dlongstaff] #1429892
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Originally Posted By: dlongstaff
Sorry to hear this!
Take a look HERE


Blimey, I wish I knew this before I bought the set.

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1429897
27/05/2013 17:31
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I'm now advising these hoses be replaced if I see them.
Garbage

To any onlookers,if your hoses fade then there not silicone so get them replaced ASAP.


Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1429915
27/05/2013 18:56
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How long ago did you buy them biggy?

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1429926
27/05/2013 19:28
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Must be a year and a half ago or so.

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1430830
31/05/2013 20:36
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I've just replaced the pipe. Can't believe how it failed.

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That's shocking

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1430837
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wow , thank god i got rid of mine .



360bhp coupe gone , now M5 f10 700bhp
Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1430838
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Originally Posted By: Biggenz
I've just replaced the pipe. Can't believe how it failed.

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Unbelievable! No obvious signs of external damage/deterioration.

Which group buy were they from?

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1430841
31/05/2013 21:32
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This evening having a quick check under the bonnet (as I have an invite to a special Polo match tomorrow, don't you knows) found a traces of a trickle, touch of the hose and it cracked!
I'll have to save up for some JBT hoses!
Hope it doesn't go pop tomorrow.

Damn those boosted hose! curse
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Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: dlongstaff] #1430850
31/05/2013 22:33
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My God those things are crap, thank goodness I took Roger's advice and purchased Viper


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Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1430863
01/06/2013 02:50
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i almost went for them and a lack of response made me do the viper group buy - thank goodness

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1430876
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I can see a Viper set on ebay, but they are from China. Does anyone know if this is the same as the group buy? It's dirt cheap so I guess not.

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1430882
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Vanair pipes have been good to me,£197 on eBay. Had these fitted to one of my old coupes has far as I know they are still on the car jbt will know if the guy who now owns the car as had any problems!

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1430927
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I've got a set of the cheapo Chinese ones on my car. They look okay to me but suppose only time will tell.


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Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1430933
01/06/2013 19:39
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I sell the complete set delivered for £170.
And every pipe is included.

No other kit does more than 9 hoses I think,so 4 short.

Also the reason I get mine made locally is most companies get the kits made in Eastern European countries with the exception of Samco.

I wasn't aware until I researched just how risky it was with these pipes.


Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1430977
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Luckily I bought from Viper and their website says that all their hoses are made by them and not imported. Which is interesting as I seem to recall the seller on one of the Group Buys saying that the hoses were same as those in the group buy?


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Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: johnnybravoturbo] #1430981
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Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo
I sell the complete set delivered for £170.
And every pipe is included.

No other kit does more than 9 hoses I think,so 4 short.

Also the reason I get mine made locally is most companies get the kits made in Eastern European countries with the exception of Samco.

I wasn't aware until I researched just how risky it was with these pipes.



I have been to John's supplier and can vouch for their operation and expertise; I just needed one particular hose and they knocked it up and gave me a spare for luck. I have JBT's hoses on all three of my Coupes, and have had peace of mind and no issues (yet) thumb . Having messed up a turbocharger (and fortunately not an entire engine) because of a hose failure I can safely say it is a false economy to skimp on coolant hoses. A stitch in time, etc..



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Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: charlie_croker] #1431000
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Originally Posted By: charlie_croker
Luckily I bought from Viper and their website says that all their hoses are made by them and not imported. Which is interesting as I seem to recall the seller on one of the Group Buys saying that the hoses were same as those in the group buy?



Indeed, if it's what I think you're referring to then it's in the group buy section still. Under group buy no. 5

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1431001
02/06/2013 07:52
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I think i have the rouge hoses on my coupe.
When hot they or something else lets of a hot unusual kind of smell.

I am constantly checking them. Fingers crossed.
Or maybe just change them all again.

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Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1431004
02/06/2013 08:27
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The Booster hoses weren't exactly cheap. They were around £200 for the set if I remember correctly. I wonder if anyone can remember where they were made and what sort of warranty they have.

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1431007
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My first set were a boosted set which I got from DavidL's gb.

Had one fail over manifold within 6 weeks of installation but put it down to running no heat shield.
Then I removed the turbo and both the turbo to rail and turbo to rad hoses crumbled around the clips.
So the 13 year old pipes were better than what I replaced them with.

So for any onlookers I'm assuming its just the boosted pipes that cause concern.


Not heard of a viper or samco issue.


Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1431008
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I haven't heard of an issue with plain old rubber hoses so long as you keep the oil off them and use quality clamps.

I would be after my money back if I bought a set of booster hoses!

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Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1431010
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I don't think he's been seen on here since.

Gb was well over 2 years ago anyway iirc so not much chance of that.


Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1431020
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Just replaced my chod along with a thermostat on jbt's advice (with a jbt silicone one) I must say I was very impressed with the condition of the original 13 year old one! It's only done about 70k & its only a vis but it looked like it was a few years old only.hopefully i'll get 70k out of this one as I don't want to do that job again LOL.


Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: johnnybravoturbo] #1431022
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Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo
I don't think he's been seen on here since.

Gb was well over 2 years ago anyway iirc so not much chance of that.


If the group buy threads were available we might see if there were any warranty. The GB that came from Viper, organized by Rudidudi, states 3 years warranty, for example. Maybe something that'd help open discussion with the manufacturer?

Re: Booster silicone pipes - Crap! [Re: ] #1431031
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I think i bought my boosted hoses from the club shop.But i am happy to be corrected if wrong.



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