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#1614873 - 23/01/2018 16:25 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Simon it seems ERS will only allow cover through a broker.

Has anyone that has travelled from the UK to Europe successfully applied online for ADAC breakdown? Oh and either knows the policy or can translate to English?
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#1614874 - 23/01/2018 16:49 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Funny, I had that suspicion frown Try Classicline?

No, on the second bit.... google translate any use?
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#1614882 - 23/01/2018 18:54 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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I believe Barmybob has used Adac in the past.
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#1614888 - 23/01/2018 20:21 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Neil it seems most only offer up to the market value of the car if it needs to be recovered to the UK. that's truly worrying if it came to it being unrepairable.

LV Britannia is one company that doesn't use the market value of the car.

Ive now booked the ferry from Newcastle to Amsterdam so its taking out 800 miles off the coupes round trip.

Are there any car museums for a stop off? I've read that there's a good collection in Mulhouse.
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#1614901 - 23/01/2018 21:24 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Mulhouse is amazing. Save a day for that.

We stopped two or three days here: http://www.chateaudelahouillere.com/ - about thirty miles west of Mulhouse, and well worth it.
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#1614916 - 24/01/2018 07:31 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Originally Posted By Rosso
Has anyone that has travelled from the UK to Europe successfully applied online for ADAC breakdown?


Have a look here: https://www.adac.de/mitgliedschaft/adac_membership/default.aspx

If you need some help, give me a shout and I'll see what I can do.

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#1614917 - 24/01/2018 07:33 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Originally Posted By Rosso
Are there any car museums for a stop off? I've read that there's a good collection in Mulhouse.


Also, you are passing not that far from Stuttgart and both the Mercedes and Porsche Museums are well worth a visit.


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#1614920 - 24/01/2018 10:34 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: neil_r]
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Originally Posted By neil_r
Originally Posted By Rosso
Are there any car museums for a stop off? I've read that there's a good collection in Mulhouse.


Also, you are passing not that far from Stuttgart and both the Mercedes and Porsche Museums are well worth a visit.


The Abarth Museum is in Belgium, near Antwerp
http://www.abarth-gmr.be/new/

If you have time and fancy a trip further south from the lakes, I also recommend Maranello, Sant Agata and Modena for Ferrari, Lamborghini and Maserati museums. If you fancy a bite to eat whilst there, these two are a must:
http://www.ristorantemontana.it/eng/storia.htm

or

http://www.ristoranteilcavallino.it/home-2/ and ask to see the private dining room where Enzo used to have lunch, not well publicised, so you will have to ask to see it!

A journey round the country roads in that area and you are likely to be passed by lots of exotica on their pre delivery road tests and maybe even the odd test mule!

If you are heading to Stuttgart but the Mrs isnt too keen on being dragged round the Porsche and Merc museums, drop her off in a town called Metzingen, if she likes shopping/designer clothes/bargains, she will thank you for it, although it might add a few £££'s to your trip!


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#1614938 - 24/01/2018 19:21 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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If you get to Brescia, check the Museo Mille Miglia.
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#1614941 - 24/01/2018 20:37 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: barnacle]
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Originally Posted By barnacle
Mulhouse is amazing. Save a day for that.

We stopped two or three days here: http://www.chateaudelahouillere.com/ - about thirty miles west of Mulhouse, and well worth it.


thanks Neil That looks wonderful and reasonably priced too.


Edited by Rosso (24/01/2018 20:42)
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#1614944 - 24/01/2018 20:58 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: neil_r]
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Originally Posted By neil_r
Originally Posted By Rosso
Has anyone that has travelled from the UK to Europe successfully applied online for ADAC breakdown?


Have a look here: https://www.adac.de/mitgliedschaft/adac_membership/default.aspx

If you need some help, give me a shout and I'll see what I can do.


Thanks for that might need some help with terms and conditions if I can find them as apparently all pdf's are in German.

But so far ADAC looks to be a better option than anything offered by UK breakdown.
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#1614946 - 24/01/2018 21:10 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: X19_pilot]
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I think the Mrs would be calling the doctor if I was to ask to go to visit the Merc and Porsche Museums.

We have been very lucky to have visited the Lamborghini Factory Museum once and the Ferruccio Museo twice and their great... its such a personal touch having the nephew of Ferruccio Lamborghini give you a guided tour. That was very special.

The Abarth Museum is in Belgium, near Antwerp
http://www.abarth-gmr.be/new/

Hopefully this one isn't too far off our route.
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#1614948 - 24/01/2018 21:23 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Originally Posted By Rosso
Originally Posted By barnacle
Mulhouse is amazing. Save a day for that.

We stopped two or three days here: http://www.chateaudelahouillere.com/ - about thirty miles west of Mulhouse, and well worth it.


thanks Neil That looks wonderful and reasonably priced too.


Also, it's a great backdrop for the obligatory 'coupe on holiday' picture!
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#1614959 - 25/01/2018 06:22 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Originally Posted By Rosso
I think the Mrs would be calling the doctor if I was to ask to go to visit the Merc and Porsche Museums.


I know what you mean but the Mercedes museum is really well done with the history of the twentieth century depicted with some car history. The building is interesting too as you spiral down from the top where the old cars are to the bottom where you can see all the current stuff (can skip that bit!) Hard to ignore the inventors of the motor car smile

The Porsche Museum is very shinny and German cool but a bit sterile if you are not a fan.

I got a trip around the AMG works last year which was also interesting but I'm not sure if you have to be invited for those. A friend works at Mercedes and took me along.

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#1614963 - 25/01/2018 07:13 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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There is an Arbarth museum in France also and I think it's on the east side of France in a very nice chateau. It also has bikes and planes.

I will try to look up a link.

Chateau de Savigny
21420
Savigny-Les-Beaune


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#1615556 - 06/02/2018 19:27 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Museo Nicolis is a really nice little museum near Verona http://www.museonicolis.com/. Not only cars, bikes and motorcycles but many other items of 20th century technology including cameras, typewriters etc.
Not sure when you're going but if it's in August, avoid driving anywhere in Italy on the weekend of Ferragosto (15th August) at all costs! The autostradas will be absolutely rammed, and tailbacks lasting hours are typical.

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#1615690 - 09/02/2018 13:43 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: wink]
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Maybe a bit late in the year for you. Lots of cars, bikes and other things to see.

Padova Motor Show

I lived in Padua for a few years and it really is a nice city. Not too far from Verona either.

You may already know this, however one point to note is that most Italian cities have an area, usually near the centre, called ZTL. It is "Zona a Traffico Limitato". Basically an area of the city that you can be fined for entering in your car, unless your number plate is registered with the local commune.

ZTL


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#1615796 - 11/02/2018 17:03 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: barnacle]
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Originally Posted By barnacle
Originally Posted By Rosso
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Mulhouse is amazing. Save a day for that.

We stopped two or three days here: http://www.chateaudelahouillere.com/ - about thirty miles west of Mulhouse, and well worth it.


thanks Neil That looks wonderful and reasonably priced too.


Also, it's a great backdrop for the obligatory 'coupe on holiday' picture!


I can see it being pretty difficult not to be stopping at every view
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#1617034 - 07/03/2018 10:45 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Just a little update on ADAC European breakdown cover for anyone looking to use them outside of Germany this is no longer an option as of October 2017 as you must have a German address.
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#1620072 - 07/05/2018 17:15 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Putting the finishing touches to our last two nights stay.

Our last night In Italy will be Bormio and then heading for Stelvio in the morning and on to Germany.

Planning to stop around Ulm and then Cologne for 1 night this splits the driving up to a very leisurely 4hrs drive each day.

Can anyone recommend any good overnight stop in and around Ulm and Cologne? Doesn't really have to too close by.
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#1620140 - 08/05/2018 19:27 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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We stopped in Ulm last time we went down; so UK to Ulm in one hit. I think we stopped in an Ibis in the city centre - mostly selected on grounds of having a car park.

I recall no difficulty finding somewhere to eat, and rather oddly, the bread museum was having a late night; surprisingly good laugh
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#1620163 - 09/05/2018 07:25 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Both Cologne and Ulm are nice places to spend an evening or even a day, especially if you are walking distance from the old town. In the sun, Ulm old town is very nice with the river, medieval walls and buildings, the cathedral, etc. In the rain, Ulm seems to take on a darker feel than one would expect! Blautopf (near ulm) is also well worth a short visit if the weather is good and the water clear:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blautopf

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#1620196 - 09/05/2018 11:49 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Cochem is a nice little town on the Mossel river, its about 2 hours south of Cologne, not too far from the 'ring. The roads are good round there too.
There is a friendly bar on the river front that has good music (and some bad), but fun to watch the locals dancing in unison to the music.
It is a safe place and plenty of Hotels have car parks. We have stayed at the Moselstern on the other side of the river, which has secure parking.

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#1620626 - 20/05/2018 10:29 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: neil_r]
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Originally Posted By neil_r
Both Cologne and Ulm are nice places to spend an evening or even a day, especially if you are walking distance from the old town. In the sun, Ulm old town is very nice with the river, medieval walls and buildings, the cathedral, etc. In the rain, Ulm seems to take on a darker feel than one would expect! Blautopf (near ulm) is also well worth a short visit if the weather is good and the water clear:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blautopf



That looks beautiful so we could certainly make a stop off at Blautopf and its only 25 mins from or route north.
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#1623576 - 04/08/2018 13:13 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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With just 7 weeks to go until we set off in the coupe and head for Italy what would be the suggested spares and tools to take with? I am certainly thinking some spare coil packs.
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#1623579 - 04/08/2018 13:39 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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You'll probably have these already...

An injector
Fuses
Spare relay (check your footwell for dropped ones tongue )
Sidelight and brake light bulbs
Spare Crank sensor
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#1623581 - 04/08/2018 13:49 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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X An injector
Check Fuses
Check Spare relay (hiding under the seat until next time)
Check Sidelight and brake light bulbs
X Spare Crank sensor
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#1623582 - 04/08/2018 15:39 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Also pack a spare coil pack if you have one.
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#1623584 - 04/08/2018 17:59 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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Fuel pump relay. Engine oil. Zip ties. Length of electric wire and coupling.Range of jubile clips.
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#1623591 - 04/08/2018 23:40 Re: Scotland to Northern Italy driving trip 2018 [Re: Rosso]
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