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#1622696 - 06/07/2018 12:55 Hot weather gremlins?
G_Man Offline
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Registered: 16/03/2006
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Loc: Warrington
The past few weeks have seen the temp here (like elsewhere) constantly in the high 20's and more. I've started to experience when crawling in traffic a slight hiccup with the engine that will trigger the injector light but once I'm on the open road everything's fine. Could be a coincidence? I was thinking that if the hot weather is making the oil really thin, so pressure will be lower than normal, then that could be the issue? It's had new plugs and air filter but could be a host of other things mind .. confused

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#1622698 - 06/07/2018 13:26 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: G_Man]
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If you can, plug startrek in to see what the ECU thinks is wrong.

It could be any number of things, but I'd learn towards a coil pack or plug leads breaking down in the heat

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#1622699 - 06/07/2018 14:36 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: G_Man]
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I wouldn't think it's the hot temps. Mine is used to running in nigh on 40 + conditions and don't have any problems apart from boiling the power steering fluid.
But then again it's not sitting in traffic on tick over very often.
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#1622710 - 07/07/2018 08:18 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: szkom]
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Thanks for your input. I suspect you're right re leads / coil pack. The pack looks like it's the original so I assume the pack is a fairly straight forward bolt off / on job?

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#1622717 - 07/07/2018 13:09 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: G_Man]
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Gman, I had a similar problem last hot spell, hiccuping and injector light and it turned out to be injector 1 failing when hot!!

Turn off and let it cool down and would be fine. When hiccuping I tried unplugging each injectors and it was obvious no.1 wasn't working properly. This was also confirmed by measuring resistance with a multimeter.

A second hand injector from Joe and a few scrapped nuckles and all now ok...just need to get air con regassed!!! laugh


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#1622732 - 07/07/2018 22:12 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: G_Man]
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Checking/changing the injectors is a serious pain on a 16; they're tucked under the plenum.

20v injectors are known to fail hot, but I haven't heard of anything similar on the 16v. The plugs, leads, distributor cap and rotor arm all need checking - in particular the leads which can wear against some sharp bits in the cam cover.

Also worth checking the connectors on the ignition coil and amplifier are clean. The amplifier doesn't have a history of failure, though the coil can die and replacements hard to find.
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#1622735 - 08/07/2018 07:42 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: G_Man]
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Are the 16v and 20v injectors the same?
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#1622747 - 08/07/2018 18:36 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: G_Man]
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Don't believe so, but don't have a part reference to hand.
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#1622764 - 09/07/2018 10:13 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: BBR]
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Originally Posted By BBR
Are the 16v and 20v injectors the same?

Fitment wise, yes they are, but they flow different rates.

16vt is 384cc and I believe 20vt is 330cc
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#1622952 - 14/07/2018 16:33 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: Begbie]
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Thanks peeps for your input. Like all things 16v the coil packs are tricky to find and appear to be anything from £170 upwards !

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#1622979 - 16/07/2018 11:50 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: G_Man]
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Eurocarparts list a Bosch one for the 16v.
Comes to £55 for a pair after discount.

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#1622981 - 16/07/2018 12:02 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: Begbie]
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Originally Posted By Begbie
Originally Posted By BBR
Are the 16v and 20v injectors the same?

Fitment wise, yes they are, but they flow different rates.

16vt is 384cc and I believe 20vt is 330cc


Thanks for that - I was interested in the non-turbo versions though wink
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#1623000 - 16/07/2018 20:08 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: G_Man]
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Dazvr6, the 16NA uses a single coil/amplifier and a distributor. The 16VT uses two wasted spark coil/amplifier blocks.
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#1623019 - 17/07/2018 08:09 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: barnacle]
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Neil - do have a link for one please? Tried to post one up but not sure how to do it as I'm on my wife's mobile. Does this account for the price as it includes the amplifier?

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#1623026 - 17/07/2018 11:35 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: BBR]
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Originally Posted By BBR
Originally Posted By Begbie
Originally Posted By BBR
Are the 16v and 20v injectors the same?

Fitment wise, yes they are, but they flow different rates.

16vt is 384cc and I believe 20vt is 330cc


Thanks for that - I was interested in the non-turbo versions though wink

It's been a while, but for some reason the number of around 280cc - 300cc seems about right for the 16v N/A
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#1623031 - 17/07/2018 14:31 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: G_Man]
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This looks like the animal: https://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Details&ProdID=4422&sku=52483

Includes the amplifier.
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#1623099 - 18/07/2018 17:59 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: barnacle]
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Thanks Neil. That's a decent saving over some that I've seen advertised. Probably the next item on my shopping list together with some Bosch leads :-)

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#1623108 - 18/07/2018 19:44 Re: Hot weather gremlins? [Re: G_Man]
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Don't forget the king lead and a new rotor and dizzy cap.
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