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Hybrid gearbox #1357920
07/07/2012 18:26
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Does anyone know what would be involved in fitting a late gearbox into a 16VT? I am thinking about a 16VT/156 6 speed hybrid. A friend had done a 20VT/156 6 speed hybrid which was pretty simple but that was a late gearbox.

Re: Hybrid gearbox [Re: Scuderia] #1357973
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You can fit a 20vt 6 speed box to the 16vt engine, but there is a lot of work involved. I tried it a few years ago and gave up due to what was involved. If you want more details, let me know and I'll post them up.


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Re: Hybrid gearbox [Re: Scuderia] #1357985
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post them up, I talked to Scuderia but couldn't remember the specific issues you found


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Originally Posted By: Begbie
You can fit a 20vt 6 speed box to the 16vt engine, but there is a lot of work involved. I tried it a few years ago and gave up due to what was involved. If you want more details, let me know and I'll post them up.


That would be great, thanks.

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From what I can remember, you need to do the following :

You need to grind down the casing that mounts to the engine, to clear the plate for the water jacket
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You need to grind down the top of the starter motor to make it clear the inside of the gearbox

You need to make a custom gearbox mount, as the 20vt one is to short, as you can see, I moved my engine mount over
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You will need the later gear linkage
You would need 20vt driveshafts
No idea on the half shaft as I never tried it, but the 16vt kind of fits, but doesn't mount flush on the bracket on the back of the engine.

There maybe other stuff, but I can't remember laugh


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Re: Hybrid gearbox [Re: Scuderia] #1358381
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Thanks Begbie

I was not thinking about fitting the whole gearbox as I could never get a 20VT 6 speed in Aus. But a can get a 156 V6 6 speed gearbox. My idea would be to use the Coupe bell housing and assemble the 6 speed onto that. This does work with a late 20VT bell housing. I dont know about the 16VT but knowing Fiat gearboxes, I think it is probable.

If this were to work, I think the 16VT drive shafts would fit. I dont know about the gearbox mount. The cables would need to be changed for sure.


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