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Urgent! Top mount removal #1008858
27/03/2010 15:53
27/03/2010 15:53

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Hey,

im in the process of chnaging the springs over, i have a qusetion about the top mounts, is the nut supposed to move indipendantly of the allen key screw? or is it a whole unit? the nut is rotating with the allen key screw, i dont want to remove it just encase

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1008893
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The allen head screw is actually the end of the shocker strut. you need to hold the allen head still whilst loosening the nut which holds the shocker to the top mount. Either use a go through socket set or hold a socket in a pair of mole grips. Only loosen the nut halfway though when on the car, and finish off on a bench using spring compressors. smile

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: chevy] #1008924
27/03/2010 17:37
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WARNING!

Do not remove the top nut unless the springs are restrained with spring compressors

My carport wall still has the mark where a spring hit it, and that was with the springs partly-compressed (I thought they were compressed enough to release the top nut - I was wrong). After the errant spring had bounced around the carport for a while, I wondered where the top nut had gone. A couple of seconds later, I heard it land on a driveway on the other side of the road shocked

Seriously - a spring can kill or maim - if you don't have compressors, buy or borrow some - they aren't expensive.

If you have already got the springs compressed, then I apologise for preaching.

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: Nigel] #1008940
27/03/2010 17:54
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Wise words indeed Nigel. I've heard of all sorts of ridiculous ways & means that some so called petrol heads have tried & removed springs, some ending in disaster.......... banghead


I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: jimboy] #1009528
28/03/2010 20:46
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very dangerous job if there is lack of knowledge/common sense and correct tools.

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1009698
29/03/2010 09:30
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Thanks for the info guys, i managed to do it in the end smile After a few expletives, one thing i would recommend when doing the rear springs are some shorter spring compressors, i was struggling to get 2 clamps on so that i was easier to remove.
Yes loaded springs are very dangerous!! If you are not confident or not sure what you are doing leave it to someone that does!!

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1009705
29/03/2010 09:38
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Dan you don't need to compress the rear springs, if you'd removed the bottom fixing for the shock the arm swings low enough to remove the spring without the need for clamps.

Sorry you're finding this out now frown


Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: Countrycruising] #1009708
29/03/2010 09:50
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ahhhh i never thought about doing anything like that, i read the how to on here, it said to use spring compressors, that would have saved me hours, and alot of swearing oh and form accidently punching the bottom of the car...

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1009714
29/03/2010 09:54
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seems your enjoying the Apex springs then dan!

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1009763
29/03/2010 11:03
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I am indeed thanks Marco! smile They have totally transformed the ride and handling, unlike some i dont find that they are too hard, seem spot on!

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1009831
29/03/2010 12:40
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good to know!

im looking for another set now... i have just found out i have a poped rear shock and i think one of my springs have snapped at the front.

what are the chances.

its at my mates garage now getting looked at!

YEY

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1009870
29/03/2010 13:16
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Talk about sods law, you sell a set then could do with some your self! Been there with a front spring snapping except mine decided peirce a brand new tyre at the same time.
i hope it turns out ok mate.

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1009926
29/03/2010 14:08
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yer, im on the hunt to buy it all again!! lol but im now looking for new better stuff!!

but those springs... they are good yer??

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1009962
29/03/2010 14:48
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Yes the Apex springs are fine for me, good improvement over the standard ones, i have only have 25mile drive home from fitting them and i have no complaints.

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1010696
30/03/2010 15:48
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not sure if this is due to the springs, but they seem to squeak a bit, not sure if it is the springs or not but only just noticed it, anyone else had this? i noticed that the bottom 3 coils are sat on each other could it be these that are rubbing?

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1010700
30/03/2010 15:51
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i would check every thing is tight mate!

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1010710
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im pretty sure that it all is, i went round checking the bolts etc when i had finished...

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1010783
30/03/2010 18:08
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It's the Apex springs, I'm sure Si will be along soon to tell you, he fitted the Apex springs and found they made the top mounts creak and squeak, he removed them about a week later as he didn't like the ride or the noise frown

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: Jimbo] #1011076
31/03/2010 09:30
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Ah right, thanks for that Jimbo. To be honest i think the ride is ok and have not really noticed any more noise.... Lucky for me (in a way) i dont actually use the car very often.

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1011080
31/03/2010 09:36
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Dan, what torque did you set the top mount bolts to, the ones which bolt them to the chassis?

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: Gunzi] #1011092
31/03/2010 09:48
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errrr..... they are pretty well torqued up, not as tight as i could get them, they gripped and then turned abit more. (i dont actually own a torque wrench).

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: ] #1011100
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Ok no worries smile

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: Gunzi] #1011454
31/03/2010 18:31
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iirc the top strut nut should be torqued to 90nm and the other 3 to the chassis torqued to 40nm.

Re: Urgent! Top mount removal [Re: chevy] #1011829
01/04/2010 09:25
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cool thanks, i will see if i can get my grubby mits on a torque wrench and check them.


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