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24mm Rear ARB #1014903
06/04/2010 17:39
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Does anyone have one of these fitted ?

If so do you have any details on how to make the brackets for it ? Or do people modify the existing brackets ?

Thanks


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Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: Taffy20vt] #1014917
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Originally Posted By: Taffy20vt
Does anyone have one of these fitted ?

If so do you have any details on how to make the brackets for it ? Or do people modify the existing brackets ?

Thanks


i have the 22mm version, but kelv was saying the 24mm need modified brackets to fit - pm him mate he knows

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1014991
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I was wondering the same as I have one of these to fit when I get a chance.

Hopefully it'll be reasonably straight forward.....

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1014999
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Adam,

I fitted mine and it was pain in the ****

Basicaly i've used top part from standard arb , and bottom part was fabricated.
I've used blow torch to heat it up and something that have 22-23mm diameter to shape it up.

It much easier with 22mm , you can use original brackets , you just drill the rivets out , and spit it in two halves.

I have some pics 24mm fitted , also have the compararison with 22mm eabach and 24mm whiteline you'll see on the pics the obvious difference.

I'll post some pics later...

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Last edited by anthrax; 06/04/2010 23:00. Reason: repeated pictures replaced
Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1015141
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Thanks for the pics.

Could you not have split the brackets and put a washer/spacer in between them to give the extra room needed for the larger ARB ?


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Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1015142
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Yes as anthrax has mentioned, you'll need to make brackets for the 24mm. You'll also need to think about how the brake compensator valve is going to be remounted. For the 22mm, you'll need to grind the bracket for it to slot through the thicker bar. I would imagine you'd need to grind more on the 24mm...lots more.

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: Kelv27] #1015164
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Adam-i would not use washers between the brackets , beacause arb wont be wrap around the bracket to sit tight.
It should be the same design as the standard one , i would even weld it as eabach did.

Kelv-i didn't look into brake compensator valve yet , as my coop still in bits , but i think all it needs is streach the spring a bit , but i might be wrong , could you put the the light on it , please...
You defenately right about that little bracket...i've had to use around file and take bit by bit off until it just fit , and it's alright now tight and secure.

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1015200
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Sorry..i didn't mean the compensator valve itself. The bracket that attaches to the ARB is the one in which the spring from the valve hooks on to. Before removing the little bracket off the old arb, take a note on its position/orientation so that you can position it the same way on the new arb. This is to ensure that the tension on the spring is the same as before...or you would have to readjust the valve again.

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: Kelv27] #1015278
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Originally Posted By: Kelv27
Yes as anthrax has mentioned, you'll need to make brackets for the 24mm. You'll also need to think about how the brake compensator valve is going to be remounted. For the 22mm, you'll need to grind the bracket for it to slot through the thicker bar. I would imagine you'd need to grind more on the 24mm...lots more.


Yeah and I don't think the standard compensator spring bracket could take much more off it and remain strong enough,22mm would be it's limit IMHO .

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Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: Baz76] #1015741
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Baz-spring bracket is alright , if you file the hole out evenly.
There is no much load on the bracket , so i can see a issue in there.

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1015747
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I had similar problems with the 22mm too, not lining up so I had to to my own brackets. Can't understand how people manage to fit the std brackets.. Unless you bend the ARB itself!

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: Per] #1016445
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Originally Posted By: Per
I had similar problems with the 22mm too, not lining up so I had to to my own brackets. Can't understand how people manage to fit the std brackets.. Unless you bend the ARB itself!


Sorry , i didnt know 22mm off centre too , so it needs custom brackets too.
Other day i've spoke to balancemotorsport and his mention that i can use standard brackets on 22mm whiteline confused
I suppose that was kind of assumption standard brackets will fit.

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1016458
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The standard bracket does fit with the 22mm. The curvature of the bracket is obviously not perfect and clamping between the 2 halves won't be as flush, but it is still doable.

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: Kelv27] #1016714
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my 22mm is fitted with standard brackets, and it was done by MM.

The 24mm on the otherhand will require custom brackets, when i spoke to julien i arranged to send my standard brackets to him after fitting my 24mm (when i actually get round to it) so he could fabricate a solution to be sold with the 24mm.

ninja

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1016746
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Unfortunately the 22mm rear ARB is no longer available at balancemotorsport frown end it will take something like 3 months to get some.


Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: crazyf1] #1016868
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24mm is a pain, not only does it not fit the clamps but as anthrax said it isnt even bent to sit in the original position correctly. I made some clamps by hand one looked symmetrical the other had the cut out offset and at an angle to meet the bar. By hand it took hours. Really naff product.
here's an old pic, they weren't meant to be slotted on the holes I just drilled them 5mm out just to make life even harder. A milling machine would make this job so easy.
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Originally Posted By: ninja
my 22mm is fitted with standard brackets, and it was done by MM.
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same here, no issues encountered wink

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1017821
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Bugger, kind of wish i went for the 22mm one now as this sounds like it will be a pain in the censored to fit....

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: crazyf1] #1018042
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Originally Posted By: crazyf1
Unfortunately the 22mm rear ARB is no longer available at balancemotorsport frown end it will take something like 3 months to get some.


OT: what about the quality of the Eibach kits ?? are they easier to fit ?

I have a 22mm arb left... tried to source a Dedra front arb but haven't succeeded so far (not yet decided but I am thinking about buying an Eibach Kit which means I wouldn't need the Whiteline arb anymore...)


Jochen

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Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: plasticomnium] #1018067
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I could be interested laugh
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Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: plasticomnium] #1018074
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Originally Posted By: plasticomnium
Originally Posted By: crazyf1
Unfortunately the 22mm rear ARB is no longer available at balancemotorsport frown end it will take something like 3 months to get some.


OT: what about the quality of the Eibach kits ?? are they easier to fit ?

I have a 22mm arb left... tried to source a Dedra front arb but haven't succeeded so far (not yet decided but I am thinking about buying an Eibach Kit which means I wouldn't need the Whiteline arb anymore...)


Jochen


EIBACH kit absolutely perfect fitment and quality :)))

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1018082
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The 3 month wait is why I went for the 24mm ARB. I already have a dedra front ARB and need them done before Spa really.

Im going to sort the rear barackets and send a set to Balance Motorsport so they can then fabricate the brackets and sell the 24mm bar as a kit.


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Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: Taffy20vt] #1018122
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Originally Posted By: Taffy20vt

Im going to sort the rear barackets and send a set to Balance Motorsport so they can then fabricate the brackets and sell the 24mm bar as a kit.

thumb What a good idea


Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: Taffy20vt] #1018124
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what material are you planning on using? alloy or steel?

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Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1018135
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Probably steel

a) because its free
b) I can then use the laser cutter in work

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Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1018558
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Originally Posted By: Fran
Bugger, kind of wish i went for the 22mm one now as this sounds like it will be a pain in the censored to fit....


You wanna swap for a eibach rear one? smile

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Tempting...

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Adam - did you managed to fabricate the brackets yet?

Re: 24mm Rear ARB [Re: ] #1021213
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Yeah I have made a set, just got to see if they fit ok now. I'll get round to it in the next few weeks smile


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