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help...what to buy next #1036830
15/05/2010 23:15
15/05/2010 23:15

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hi people, need some help

iv fitted the following and i need to know what else is needed before i go to flea for a map

tubula manifold, new gaskets for turbo and v-band
gt28rs 86
v-band adapter 2.75"
blue flame exhaust system full, no cat 2.75"
baileys re-curc dump valve
k&n 57i induction kit
ngk r spark plugs
10-40w mobil s oil
fmic, 3" in and out,
2.5" piping for intercooler, 2x reducers 3" to 2.5"
manual boost controller
sard boost gauge
gtec 1 or 2 or something else unknown chip "dont know as was fitted to car when i bought it.

Now do i need the following and is there anything else?

3.8 fpr "if so what one do i buy?"

AFR guage "someone told me there a must, if so what one or does it not matter?

fuel pump power mod?

15w-50 oil

gismo electronic boost controller, someone told me they spike but are they any good? if not what is???

bosch giant green injectors???

flea map???

my car currently makes 262bhp, slightly lean, but what can i expect with everything done?

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Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1036833
15/05/2010 23:22
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Straight induction pipe fitted i presume?
AFR gauge i dont think matter when if will be flea mapped as he will set the parimeters for air and fuel


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Re: help...what to buy next [Re: coupedummy] #1036834
15/05/2010 23:26
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Straight induction pipe? what do you mean by that?

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1036835
15/05/2010 23:30
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Its basically a shorter indution pipe to the turbo inlet.
Literally a straight pipe with the afm and a k and n or likelwise fitted on the end.
Helps spool up,keithc has them for sal in buy section. Sip for short.


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Re: help...what to buy next [Re: coupedummy] #1036837
15/05/2010 23:36
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oh i know, at the mo its got a 3" to 2.5" reducer connecting the old pipe to the turbo air-in on the gt28rs, so a sip is a must? are these cheap sip as good as the pro-alloy ones for £50?

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1036843
15/05/2010 23:46
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How about an EBC.....you can choose what power to run then and don't have to run it at max all the time ?

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1036846
15/05/2010 23:51
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walbro fuel pump

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1036848
15/05/2010 23:55
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i was told that those pumps arnt really needed and the modded standard pump is more then good enough

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1036850
15/05/2010 23:59
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Not a must but better for spool apparently. Unsure of keith's ones but look decent. As said there basically a straight pipe so nowt to wrong aslong as it fits. Also make sure theres a tapping for oil breather


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Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1036851
15/05/2010 23:59
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I think most people on here with 300+ bhp coops have an uprated walbro fuel pump.

Best thing to do is PM or call Flea, then you can tell him what your aiming for and what youve got, and he can advise what would be best.

He is very helpful and patient.


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Re: help...what to buy next [Re: technics] #1036868
16/05/2010 01:26
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you dont need a walbro pump for 300bhp alongs if you have 12v at the pump it will be good enough


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Re: help...what to buy next [Re: knight7660] #1036879
16/05/2010 05:31
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best bet is to speak to Flea direct, he'll be the one mapping it so he'll be able to tell you exactly what extras you need.

In terms of uprated injectors and FPR Flea is a able to supply and fit as part of the mapping if he feels on the day that they are required.

Paul

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1036905
16/05/2010 08:48
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i just want to get everything bought, sorted and then have it maped, at the mo if i can make 350bhp or a bit more i'l be happy with that

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1036916
16/05/2010 09:19
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New DP would be more free flowing.

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1036921
16/05/2010 09:39
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i cant afford a 3"down pipe yet, will wait till one comes up

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1037301
16/05/2010 20:11
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Somthing bigger than a 2.25' dp and exhaust,

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Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1037325
16/05/2010 20:42
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Originally Posted By: TheAudioGuy
if i can make 350bhp or a bit more i'l be happy with that
on standard internals? prepare for bad news imo

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1037327
16/05/2010 20:44
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Rob made over 350bhp on standard internals wink

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1037339
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For now......


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Re: help...what to buy next [Re: technics] #1037344
16/05/2010 20:58
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Originally Posted By: technics
For now......


flea suggested mine would make 350bhp if i ever get a session finished, but i have no intention of running round with that power, i want him to map it around 300 - 310 if he can

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1037386
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I think its pretty hard to feel the difference from 310 to 350, so probably a wise choice.
Good luck with it too...


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Re: help...what to buy next [Re: knight7660] #1038425
18/05/2010 12:33
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Originally Posted By: knight7660
you dont need a walbro pump for 300bhp alongs if you have 12v at the pump it will be good enough



I have heard that, but I bought one anyway.

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1038478
18/05/2010 13:44
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Originally Posted By: TheAudioGuy

3.8 fpr "if so what one do i buy?"


Speak to Flea. He should be able to supply and fit one of these when you take it for mapping. You certainly wouldn't want it fitted before you get there as the fuelling will be all over the place. I think they're around £60+ fitting

Originally Posted By: TheAudioGuy

AFR guage "someone told me there a must, if so what one or does it not matter?


I wouldn't bother. If you were going to get one, then it'd have to be a wideband job requiring exhaust modification. They are good for identifying a sudden chnge in fuelling resulting from a problem. Again speak to Leighton.

Originally Posted By: TheAudioGuy

fuel pump power mod?


Essential. You can get these off of Ebay from an (ex?) forum member. Can't remember who it is now... Try searching the forum for "Wiring mod".

Originally Posted By: TheAudioGuy

15w-50 oil


Essential. I've been running this stuff for 70,000miles+ and it still holds good oil pressure.

Originally Posted By: TheAudioGuy

gismo electronic boost controller, someone told me they spike but are they any good? if not what is???


Lloyd runs one of these, I use a Blitz. They will all spike if provoked and the Blitz is very sensitive to extreme temperatures. Not sure which is best, but the Blitz is fine for my needs.

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bosch giant green injectors???


Essential for getting the most from that turbo.

Originally Posted By: TheAudioGuy

flea map???


Oh yes.

Originally Posted By: TheAudioGuy

my car currently makes 262bhp, slightly lean, but what can i expect with everything done?


If you get on on the circuit Motors dyno after mapping, you'll be sure to see 370bhp in my opinion. Try to get it dyno'd before for a direct 'before and after map' comparison smile

Anything else? Get the 3" straight through SIP so you can be sure there is no restriction there.


F****** b****** thing...
Re: help...what to buy next [Re: Trappy] #1049976
09/06/2010 06:52
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hi peeps me again laugh

right iv now done the power mod for the pump and fitted the fmic and sip

now currently my cheap boost controller i found out is just a cheap bleed valve so im not happy! at the moment boost comes in and spikes to 1.5bar then dips to under 1.0bar then stays steady at 1.2bar then full worp speed!

now the turbo cuts in fast due to the sip and my car sucks like a dyson hoover tongue

now im thinking should i bin the boost controller and reconect up the ebv and let the gtec 2 do its thing or leave it be till i buy a propper manual boost controller?

i cant afford a blitz or gizmo at the mo, but iv got a 3.8bar fpr which i will be getting asap when something i have sells on ebay

but my question next is: injectors

from what rog told me my engine in the car has been replaced with a newer one because of the lack of a oil temp sensor in the sump. sump doesnt look like its been replaced.

so i would say my engine is less then the milage of the car and due to this must be standard apart from what iv done and the lpg kit.

so what will a standard engine make before i have to go forged pistons, rod, cams, headwork, ect?

will changing the injectors be going more towards the next stage of an engine rebuild?
if not what injectors? Siemens 380cc? help?

the next things on my list are:

fpr 3.8bar
boost controller
map
a altanator tentioner "pointed out by rog"
cam cover
mobile 1 15w-50

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Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1053316
15/06/2010 15:21
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hi peeps iv fitted the 3.8bar fpr and the car is now more responsive and the flat spots have basicly gone, iv also picked up the moble 1 15w-50 oil for £43 at my local motor factors

so next i guess is injectors and a flea map

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1053320
15/06/2010 15:25
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flea map is a definite, and then he'll explain what is needed next wink

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1053336
15/06/2010 16:12
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if you want, stick a set of 16vt injectors on the carand then get it mapped!

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1053345
15/06/2010 16:36
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audioguy, do you know for sure you need bigger injectors?

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1053369
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Proccy has a point, i would stick it on a rolling road and see what your fueling is like before getting injectors and other stuff!!

Re: help...what to buy next [Re: ] #1053416
15/06/2010 19:32
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you can get it cheaper from ebay mate,i am talking abaut oil by the way tongue

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