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lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
#1041721
24/05/2010 14:30
24/05/2010 14:30
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this morning I was driving along on a road i knew very well I was cornering at a moderate speed but within speed limits on a sweeping B road. halfway through the bend the steering felt non responsive and the back swept out. pulling the car to the right and across the other road lane. (thank God nothing was coming the other way) At this point my pants changed from a shade of navy blue to a lightish brown. I was spinning to the inner kerbed section of corner at a sideward angle, and so I managed to counter the car from the skid but I was now travelling at a 45 degree angle to the road and the car ran over the kerb and onto the grass verge at around 15mph, but thankfully at this 45degree angle. Now sat on the verge having travelled through the grass a few metres I sat there, before getting out and walking round the car shaking like a leaf. all wheels were present and appeared bolted and at true angles. I got back into the car, At this point a car drove past and embarrased i pretended that it was not bizarre for me to be parked here, I must have looked like a bird watcher or someone who had chosen a poor site for sexual acts. I started the car and drove very slowly, bizzarly, no rattles bangs, squeeks, even the steering was true. at slow speeds I could not identify any obvious fault. I winged the girl in home all the way back i was thinking about how bad the bodywork, le kit, alloys, intercooler, etc. must have been hit. On getting home I had a good look round getting the jacks out, The car has only just had new wishbones, Trackrod ends, droplinks, clutch, tyres, tracking etc. so this is where i looked first but knew id done the job properly and so all was ok, back tyre was down 10psi and so far this is my culprit and possibly my tracking is out although it had been checked, hmmmm so damage report, my shabby front bumper is now really bad and so I shall repair and respray it as i already had bought the paint. one tyre has a damaged belt, so no driving the car on it as it has a bulge. slight scuff to the alloy. and Tracking needs doing. I feel so very lucky and glad i was not travelling fast but was incredibly shaken, here are the pics. still had grass on le lips http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g105/matthewlittle2006/2010_0524ccc0013.jpghttp://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g105/matthewlittle2006/2010_0524ccc0012.jpg
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
[Re: bridges]
#1041727
24/05/2010 14:35
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RICHB
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Glad you came out of it OK, like you say, very lucky there was nothing coming in the other direction! Hope the repairs go well, i'll check my tyre pressures tonight......
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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24/05/2010 14:42
24/05/2010 14:42
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Jeez you're lucky mate! Glad to hear you're ok and the coupe only suffered minimal damage, but that is a very alarming incident. Could there have been oil or something on the road?? Sounds very odd to lose the back end like that!
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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24/05/2010 15:17
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Very lucky indeed. Could of been a lot worse.
Did you check the road surface?
I have seen a car loose all traction when going over some sort of diesel/oil spill sounds similar to what you experienced.
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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24/05/2010 15:18
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Truffle
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It definately is suprising when these things happen and then never happen again. In my old 16vt i was on a duel carriageway and had to brake sharply because a motorbike infront got himself into trouble, only to have the car lurch to the left (and into the, thankfully, empty left hand lane).
Upon reapplying the brakes it didnt happen again, and didnt happen ever again in my ownership of the car.
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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24/05/2010 15:19
24/05/2010 15:19
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Very lucky indeed. Could of been a lot worse.
Did you check the road surface?
I have seen a car loose all traction when going over some sort of diesel/oil spill sounds similar to what you experienced. No, really regret not doing so,
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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24/05/2010 15:45
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duncan78
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37 psi on the fronts, surely should be 39??
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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24/05/2010 17:03
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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24/05/2010 17:45
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Biggers
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Glad to see you're both safe and well Try your hardest to find out what caused your skid - revisit the scene as soon as you can and you'll maybe find some farm diesel or chemical spillage If not I'd book a visit to PowerItalia or Motormech for a checkup on the car's components that could have temporarily failed and caused this. Fingers crossed...
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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24/05/2010 18:43
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very lucky indeed...ive also experienced this sort of behaviour from the coop before on the track....albeit at much higher speeds than on public roads. The rear gets light mid corner and comes away so that the car's body is at a 45 degree angle to the intended path. One time was in the dry and luckily the section was wide enough to continue the drift, in the wet same happened but much harder to control with counter steer.
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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#1041904
24/05/2010 19:14
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well, went back to the scene and all looks oil free. I am thinking that Barnacle is right, the suspension (koni springs and dampers) are very solid and so am thinking movement in the tyre is less absorbed by the suspension just my opinion though. But looking at it as a percentage the psi was far too low. Have the car in the air and tomorrow will be looking for any movement mechanically, just for peace of mind.
@ Duncan, find -2 psi on the fronts help with the comfort and is nt noticable handling wise, unless of course it was why she span lol
thankyou so much everyone for concern support and opinions, I will keep everyone posted on my findings.
ps, MattW, thanks
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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#1041921
24/05/2010 19:41
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duncan78
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ah ok, I try to stick religiously to the tyre pressures in the manual. Main thing is you're alright and the car hasn't got any major damage, i've not experienced anything like that in the coop .. would have me up too !
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#1041951
24/05/2010 20:27
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Nice plate
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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#1041957
24/05/2010 20:37
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I like your wheels. What are they and do they clear the brembos without spacers?
1998 Steel Grey 20V Turbo
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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#1041964
24/05/2010 20:48
24/05/2010 20:48
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Look like wolfrace triad or dare `v2`s,they need spacers and wabble bolts,I have the same wheels Dave Ps glad you came out of the incident unscathed.
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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#1042042
24/05/2010 22:54
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Glad to hear nothin major was damaged bud. paul.
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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25/05/2010 00:31
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laura07
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Hey, glad to hear this story didnt have a bad ending. You have very similar alloys to what ive got on my coop, i love this look, anyone else think these are some of the nicest style aftermarket wheels for the coop? Great choice bridges!!
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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25/05/2010 11:48
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WillB76
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Good to hear you saved the car and yourself! Great looking car, even with a bit of grass attached
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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#1042419
25/05/2010 15:18
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ngspawn
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wow. I had exactly the same situation during the winter, very unpleasant. But I wasn`t that lucky and had a crash. no injuries but lots of money to repair the coop.
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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25/05/2010 17:16
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wow. I had exactly the same situation during the winter, very unpleasant. But I wasn`t that lucky and had a crash. no injuries but lots of money to repair the coop. You know how everything seems to slow in an accident, through my mind looking at the verge, I was thinking Ive just put genuine wishbones trackrod ends droplinks and spent a fair time getting car nice plus is quite low on newish suspension, I was thinking it was going to cost a lot of money, I used to repair accident damage cars so know what hitting kerbs sideways does to hubs, wheels wishbones suspension, hence i knew i had to at least try and get it to hit straight on.
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Re: lost control of my coupe, very lucky.
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31/05/2010 08:51
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Nello
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Glad to hear you are OK - thats the most important thing and hope you get to the bottom of the cause. If its any compensation your car still looks good even with the damage!
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