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Biker at 140mph video = banned #1043039 26/05/2010 17:46 26/05/2010 17:46
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,831 Haslemere, Surrey M Mark_S OP Forum is my job
Mark_S OP Forum is my job M Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,831 Haslemere, Surrey	Speeding undertaking at speed too 997 C4S

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: Mark_S] #1043051 26/05/2010 18:16 26/05/2010 18:16
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,700 burning oil in the alfa whatmoretyres Forum is my job
whatmoretyres Forum is my job Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,700 burning oil in the alfa	how can that biker possibly think that's acceptable? Smart Fitness and GPS seller

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: whatmoretyres] #1043053 26/05/2010 18:25 26/05/2010 18:25
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 11,159 , S samsite999 I AM a Coop
samsite999 I AM a Coop S Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 11,159 ,	Seems to me that the Police gave him more than a few miles to hang him self (or her) Out of interest, as soon as he darted off at 90mph+ why didn't the police biker pull him instead of letting it go on till double the speed limit? It was hard to tell, I suppose its possable he did have blues and two's on and the biker just didnt see him

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: samsite999] #1043101 26/05/2010 19:52 26/05/2010 19:52
S Steve_G Unregistered
Steve_G Unregistered S	Unmarked police bike. Says so on the website. Not acceptable but at the same time it would appear the police bike was toying with the motorcyclist. He pulled in to let the unmarked bike by and it just hung around in the outside lane.

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: whatmoretyres] #1043108 26/05/2010 19:58 26/05/2010 19:58
B beast Unregistered
beast Unregistered B	Originally Posted By: whatmoretyres how can that biker possibly think that's acceptable? because most bikers dont think the rules of the road apply to them

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043109 26/05/2010 19:59 26/05/2010 19:59
B beast Unregistered
beast Unregistered B	Originally Posted By: Steve_G Unmarked police bike. Says so on the website. Not acceptable but at the same time it would appear the police bike was toying with the motorcyclist. He pulled in to let the unmarked bike by and it just hung around in the outside lane. so the biker should be done for racing too then?im happy with that,make it a 2 year ban

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043118 26/05/2010 20:05 26/05/2010 20:05
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	TBH, 140mph for that kind of bike is easy - look at how quick it went from 70 to 120+ - 140mph is just a few seconds and the bike would have been capable of much more There was nothing in that video that was hugely stupid - OK, undertaking isn't clever, but we've all done it, especially when you've got a myopic car driver dawdling in the outside lane with nothing in the inside lane. Pulling the wheelie probably didn't help either, but the rider was clearly in full control at all times and its not like the road was busy All this sounds like I'm condoning silly speeds - I suppose I am to an extent, but I'm a very firm believer in doing my speeding where its appropriate (ie deserted roads, clear view, no turnings, no buildings). Biker boy was just a bit unlucky to be tailed by an unmarked bike - they are very rare, so he probably just thought he had someone else who fancied a bit of cobweb-clearing Lucky to get off with just a ban though

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043123 26/05/2010 20:10 26/05/2010 20:10
D DanielTheManual Unregistered
DanielTheManual Unregistered D	I drove on that road tonight! That is coming out of Maidstone, leading to Bluebell Hill. The road off the last round-about is a 50 zone, until he goes under a series a bridges (the M20) where it then goes to NSL. Mental, there are often camera vans on those bridges.

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043152 26/05/2010 20:53 26/05/2010 20:53
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,700 burning oil in the alfa whatmoretyres Forum is my job
whatmoretyres Forum is my job Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,700 burning oil in the alfa	by Nigel, that's the point, at no stage does 140 on a public road become "appropriate" Smart Fitness and GPS seller

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: Nigel] #1043160 26/05/2010 21:05 26/05/2010 21:05
B beast Unregistered
beast Unregistered B	Originally Posted By: Nigel There was nothing in that video that was hugely stupid you must live on a different planet to the rest of us then nigel

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043172 26/05/2010 21:18 26/05/2010 21:18
P proccy Unregistered
proccy Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: beast Originally Posted By: Nigel There was nothing in that video that was hugely stupid you must live on a different planet to the rest of us then nigel in terms of driving ability i think that's a fair assumption...... in all honesty i think most folks with fast cars/bikes have done it at some point

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043190 26/05/2010 21:40 26/05/2010 21:40
T Turbo_Verde Unregistered
Turbo_Verde Unregistered T	Originally Posted By: DanielTheManual I drove on that road tonight! That is coming out of Maidstone, leading to Bluebell Hill. The road off the last round-about is a 50 zone, until he goes under a series a bridges (the M20) where it then goes to NSL. Mental, there are often camera vans on those bridges. THat camera van that keeps popping up there is funded by my company alone I reckon!!

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043194 26/05/2010 21:45 26/05/2010 21:45
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	I wonder what was in his rucksack?

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043280 26/05/2010 23:25 26/05/2010 23:25
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,200 england C came2dance I AM a Coop
came2dance I AM a Coop C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 13,200 england	I came across a group of bikers driving like that on the way to Donnington. I overtook them and let them get on with it www.chrisdoyle-photography.co.uk

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: came2dance] #1043357 27/05/2010 08:49 27/05/2010 08:49
F Faz Unregistered
Faz Unregistered F	TBH I don't see what all the fuss is about, the guy was speeding, got caught, and received an appropriate ban. Undertaking can be riskyand worth a nick but it's poor lane discipline by the motorist which triggered it. Most motorists have no concept of the speed, handling and braking ability of modern performance motorbikes. I sold my bike before I lost my license, as remaining within the speed limits became very testing! Accelerating off a roundabout onto dual carriage way and going up through the gears without pushing it would see speeds of 70mph 2nd gear, 100mph 3rd, 130mph 4th and that's with 2 gears to go! Following a car at 50mph and going to overtake would see me changing down at least 3 gears and making sure I didn't plant myself in the back of the car in front.

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: came2dance] #1043359 27/05/2010 08:51 27/05/2010 08:51
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: came2dance I came across a group of bikers driving like that on the way to Donnington. I overtook them and let them get on with it

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043395 27/05/2010 09:45 27/05/2010 09:45
N NuIotaChi Unregistered
NuIotaChi Unregistered N	Originally Posted By: Faz Undertaking can be riskyand worth a nick How? It's not illegal because it's not technically possible. Just to add, I'm not condoning it and agree, it is risky. Last edited by NuIotaChi; 27/05/2010 09:46.

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043396 27/05/2010 09:46 27/05/2010 09:46
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire Nigel Forum veteran
Nigel Forum veteran Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 17,367 Staffordshire	Originally Posted By: beast you must live on a different planet to the rest of us then nigel Beast - I can't remember if you're a biker or not - I suspect not, because any biker that's ever ridden a fast bike will know that 140 is just so easy to achieve. Most car drivers simply have zero comprehension of how capable a modern bike is - tyres are monstrously sticky, brakes are capable of standing the bike on its front wheel and the acceleration is beyond the vast majority of supercars (An R1 will do 0-100 in less than six seconds and on to a quarter in around 10 seconds, for comparison, that's roughly equivalent to a Veyron, which costs about 100 times as much) I accept that 140 on a public road deserves a ban, but I also stand by my comment that on a fast bike, in the right circumstances, its not dangerous - in fact its trivially easy

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: Nigel] #1043402 27/05/2010 09:52 27/05/2010 09:52
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	Hell, I've had fast bikes and done the same - does this mean I should be hung/drawn and quartered? Next.....

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: Nigel] #1043409 27/05/2010 10:00 27/05/2010 10:00
S suba Unregistered
suba Unregistered S	Originally Posted By: Nigel TBH, 140mph for that kind of bike is easy - look at how quick it went from 70 to 120+ - 140mph is just a few seconds and the bike would have been capable of much more There was nothing in that video that was hugely stupid - OK, undertaking isn't clever, but we've all done it, especially when you've got a myopic car driver dawdling in the outside lane with nothing in the inside lane. Pulling the wheelie probably didn't help either, but the rider was clearly in full control at all times and its not like the road was busy All this sounds like I'm condoning silly speeds - I suppose I am to an extent, but I'm a very firm believer in doing my speeding where its appropriate (ie deserted roads, clear view, no turnings, no buildings). Biker boy was just a bit unlucky to be tailed by an unmarked bike - they are very rare, so he probably just thought he had someone else who fancied a bit of cobweb-clearing Lucky to get off with just a ban though I agree with Nigel here - no kiddies to hit, junctions etc. All he's done is undertake a few cars in the wrong lane, with allowing a decent amount of space to do so. If he comes off the bike then it's likely he'll only damage himself. If you are going to undertake, then you are going to do it quickly as you can - you can be sure the car driver in the wrong lane can't use their mirrors - on a sports bike that little squirt of throttle at 80mph does quite a lot...and it takes a while to coast down.

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043412 27/05/2010 10:05 27/05/2010 10:05
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	Anyone seen that video on youtube with the modded 20VT having a controlled race with a R6? The coop beats it hands down. Amazing... Disclaimer But dangerous, never try this at home, keep to the rules and regulations of the UK government at all time, know your braking distances (even though they are wrong). Never encourage bad behaviour, be friendly and curtious at all time. Patch234 does not agree with any wrong doing, nor does he actively seek to do wrong. I always drive at the legal speed limit where-ever I go. The 300 bhp engine installed in my car is for discussion purposes only. 20 is plenty

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043415 27/05/2010 10:09 27/05/2010 10:09
S suba Unregistered
suba Unregistered S	LOL - R6 not trying perhaps?

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043525 27/05/2010 12:53 27/05/2010 12:53
B beast Unregistered
beast Unregistered B	Originally Posted By: proccy in terms of driving ability i think that's a fair assumption how is that fair as you have never seen me drive. way you say it someone like lewis hamilton should be allowed to frive whatever speed he likes then?

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043569 27/05/2010 13:45 27/05/2010 13:45
K karl_20VT Unregistered
karl_20VT Unregistered K	what we need in the UK is an Autobahn, somewhere that this is acceptable where it is effectivly under a set environment ie, few corners, humps, bumps and granny crossings. It would at least take the 140mph of the unsafer roads to another place. statistics show that on the Autobahn on areas with no speed limits there is no increase in accidents (taken from varios websites all stating the same thing).... It will never happen though and i'm just wishing. I agree with Nigel, until you've owned a bike, you don't realise or understand the diference and how quick the speedo snaps round the clock. I bet in fact that 99% of people on here have hit 100mph at some point (espically in the coupe) which is of couse an instant ban. 140mph really isn't that much on those sort of roads. I do agree to the ban but think thats its another case of 140mph....... O no, when in fact its just because he got caught.

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043664 27/05/2010 16:18 27/05/2010 16:18
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,700 burning oil in the alfa whatmoretyres Forum is my job
whatmoretyres Forum is my job Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,700 burning oil in the alfa	I really can't believe this, how can 140 be justified. The bike does it quickly, yes. If you can't handle keeping a fast bike to a reasonable speed, buy a slower bike. Yes, the car driving is poor in the clip, but this is no excuse. I agree that bikers are killed because people don't see them and with examples like this you can see why, people aren't expecting to be passed at double speed on the inside. The roads are not designed for this speed, the corners aren't the tarmac isn't, even on motorways. Smart Fitness and GPS seller

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: whatmoretyres] #1043679 27/05/2010 16:33 27/05/2010 16:33
S suba Unregistered
suba Unregistered S	He was not cruising at 140....that was peak speed. i'm not justifying it, but it that video the only person at risk was the biker himself, not a bunch of kids crossing the road outside a school. i would be far more worried if he had been overtaking doing 50 in a 30 limit pulling a wheelie down the local high street - and there are plenty of bikers that do that kind of thing, those are the ones that should end up in court. I'd rather go past a dawdling car in the wrong lane at speed than hang about in it's blind spot crawling past at 80 or flash my lights for ten minutes behind it. I've been known to pass on the inside of idiots when in a quick car - when i have I dont do it slowly. Lane discipline is VERY poor in the UK - I'd like to see more people given points for hogging the fast lane on the spot.

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: Nigel] #1043715 27/05/2010 17:37 27/05/2010 17:37
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,852 Cambridge & Cotswolds M MeanRedSpider Je suis un Coupé
MeanRedSpider Je suis un Coupé M Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,852 Cambridge & Cotswolds	Originally Posted By: Nigel Most car drivers simply have zero comprehension of how capable a modern bike is Absolutely - though that's possibly one of the reasons that so many car/bike incidents occur. My brother learned pretty quickly that other cars totally misjudged how quick his Caterham would reach them from a standing start. Equally, I'm also pretty sure that many bikers overestimate their capabilities and that of their machines. We're already back into the season of several bikers a week killing themselves up here. Great for people waiting for donated organs - less good for the Police, fire brigade, ambulances, relatives and innocent 3rd parties. http://www.alfa.me.uk

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043774 27/05/2010 19:58 27/05/2010 19:58
P proccy Unregistered
proccy Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: beast Originally Posted By: proccy in terms of driving ability i think that's a fair assumption how is that fair as you have never seen me drive. way you say it someone like lewis hamilton should be allowed to frive whatever speed he likes then? based on the fact nigel has won more than one handling competition in his car, based on what i've seen at curborough of his driving and based on the fact he handles on a daily basis a very powerful car at good speeds without issue. with regard to hamilton, in some enlightened countries he can

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043902 27/05/2010 23:28 27/05/2010 23:28
P patch234 Unregistered
patch234 Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: patch234 Anyone seen that video on youtube with the modded 20VT having a controlled race with a R6? The coop beats it hands down. Amazing... Disclaimer But dangerous, never try this at home, keep to the rules and regulations of the UK government at all time, know your braking distances (even though they are wrong). Never encourage bad behaviour, be friendly and curtious at all time. Patch234 does not agree with any wrong doing, nor does he actively seek to do wrong. I always drive at the legal speed limit where-ever I go. The 300 bhp engine installed in my car is for discussion purposes only. 20 is plenty Here we go - CIick

Re: Biker at 140mph video = banned [Re: ] #1043922 27/05/2010 23:52 27/05/2010 23:52
G Greg20vTurbo Unregistered
Greg20vTurbo Unregistered G	The way i see it is the un-marked Police biker is also riding dangerously, as he had no sirens or blue lights on for the whole episode, so therefore he committed the same offence for not stopping him straight away and allowing the biker to continue.

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