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Re: Stage 1.5
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04/05/2006 16:59
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With an EBC the boost module will no longer control the boost. This will give better boost response and will be fine if set to 1.2 bar and the the car is re-mapped to this boost profile.
I would say 260-270 bhp mapped on that lot as long as your turbo is in good condition and can hold the boost at the top end OK.
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Re: Stage 1.5
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04/05/2006 19:16
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why are you planning to put a Gtec2 in if it's already mapped with a unichip? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
also i'd be surprised if you managed to get 285 from a std turbo, that's usually hybrid teritory.
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Re: Stage 1.5
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04/05/2006 19:24
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Most of the standard 20vt chipped here in denmark end up running at 272-280 hp, this is standard turbo and everything else, at 1.2 bar i believe
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Re: Stage 1.5
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04/05/2006 19:33
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Do you have an increased fuel pump / regulator / voltage mod? no, was hoping the standard pump will do for the timebeing. am sure pts will let me know if i need a 255. think it's borderline around the 270-280 bhp mark for a standard pump to cope.
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Re: Stage 1.5
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04/05/2006 20:11
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what with just a chip <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Yes, just chip on fully standard car. Have seen a 20vt with supersprint cat-back and thats the only mod, plus a chip, then 279 hp
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Re: Stage 1.5
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04/05/2006 20:11
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if your car's been mapped with the standard pump and there's enough fuel for them to play with there why go for a bigger pump?
Same goes for the chip - dont mess with a setup that works fine already
any changes to the fuel system / or different chip and you'll need a remap....
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Re: Stage 1.5
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04/05/2006 20:14
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if your car's been mapped with the standard pump and there's enough fuel for them to play with there why go for a bigger pump?
Same goes for the chip - dont mess with a setup that works fine already
any changes to the fuel system / or different chip and you'll need a remap.... i agree but putting in a walbro 255 safeguards for the future, the more mods i can get done in one go the less i will pay on labour costs. also my car was originally mapped to a ragazzon exhaust, even without changing the chip, with a new exhaust, fmic, filter, aquamist there is no way the fuelling would be spot on.
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Re: Stage 1.5
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04/05/2006 20:30
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fair enough - if you upgrade the pump you also need to modify the voltage IMO to ensure the pump get 13v under load - the standard wiring wont give enough power to drive the bigger pump properly as it can drop as low as 9v on some cars which = approx 30% less fuel than at 13v.
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Re: Stage 1.5
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05/05/2006 00:11
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If you trawl through the PTS result post;
a, you'll be reading for weeks b, you'll find that Paul thought the Gtec1 was a very good chip to map over. A number of guys (myself included) had a very similar setup to yours when we went up there for the remap using a Gtec1.
If you do want to bung a Gtec2 in then fair do's but i would say that it may be worth taking a Gtec1 with you just incase. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
edited to say: Wouldn't the final outcome be the same regardless of which chip was used or is the '50 points' that paul can play with not that much? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Stage 1.5
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05/05/2006 15:06
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You want the car to be running slightly rich prior to mapping - in the 10's so they can pull it out a bit to get more power but still be safe - mine was mapped to 11.9 and gave me another 10bhp, which is slightly conservative, but I want reliability not another 3 bhp ontop of that....
The GTEC2 feels more response off boost than the GTEC1 as the ignition is advanced. Another feature of the unichip is that the ignition is advanced until the car starts to DET and then backed off a bit. It's easier for them to play with the ignition timing from the GTEC1 aparrently.
As long as whatever chip you use is fuelling well througout the range + your car can support what the chip is trying to do (e.g. if your injectors are filthy then using a higher fuelling chip will not increase the fuel delivery)then the unichip should give the same result.
Different chips perform differently in different cars. Dave at PTS said he has seen some coops with pretty much identical setups fuel totally differently. In theory a plug and play chip like the GTEC2 could be spot on for your car - and you would gain very little out of a unichip at all!
if you want to make sure you'll get the most out of a unichip then you need to get your hands on a wide band lambda or go for a standard rolling road run to iron out / spot any major fuelling probs if there are any + then sort them out before you fork out for a unichip.
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