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20VT into an alfa 145 #1070042
14/07/2010 22:27
14/07/2010 22:27

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Finally I can start the build thread for my Alfa 145. Had the 145 for a while now so have been able to prepare it a bit ready for the project to start in earnest, maily welding up the rusty floor!

I now have a complete 20VT coupe which has most of the parts needed for the conversion, I say "most" of the parts as the engine turns out to be pretty much dead which is a shame even though I bought it as a non-runner.

Pics to start with of the 2 cars facing up together. This weekend I will take the running gear off the Coupe and fit it to the 145, the engine can wait until later.

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Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1071037
16/07/2010 22:24
16/07/2010 22:24

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got the engine out today, the suspension etc swap over will start this weekend

hope these pics create clickable thumbnails rolleyes


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took the head off to see what the compression/piston/water loss issue was shocked

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new engine needed laugh

thanks to barnacle for editing the pics, i know how now though so no more problems laugh

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Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1071378
17/07/2010 19:34
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started to swap the suspension & brakes over this afternoon, the sub-frames also need to be swapped i'm told so will be doing that also? the rack needs to be changed anyway so easier to change the whole thing.
the gear linkages are the traditional rod types on the 145 and cables on the coupe so they will also be changed, comes complete on it's own tunnel on the coupe, will take the 145's one off tomorrow which hopefully should mount similar

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while taking the struts off the 145 though i had a poke at some rusty areas, more welding needed laugh

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hopefully it won't be too much longer before the main parts are swapped over, apart from needing to get a fresh engine of course laugh

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1086575
14/08/2010 20:34
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brakes/suspension/steering etc swapped over & i hope the wiring is in order so on to the engine work.

had an issue with the new engine being slightly different in that it doesn't have the oil temperature sensor in the sump so had to strip the old sump off the blown engine to swap it over, bit of a mess in there shocked

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took the baffle plate out and after 2 or 3 hours of cleaning it finally ended up clean enough to be used, nice cast baffle plates in the sump bottom to help with oil surge cool


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all built back up ready for fitting

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a few of the bits & pieces i found in the sludge in the sump laugh

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made a mess of my parts washer too, plenty of other bits of piston & block bore too


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one little piece that is recognisable, the part of the piston where the gudgeon pin goes through, the groove for the circlip is still in place laugh

hopefully will be installing the engine in the 145 within the next few days cool

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1090492
23/08/2010 22:16
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engine fitted now, a bit tight for space but everything lined up fine

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have got it running so happy that my wiring seems to be working. just got to now fit the fmic, new front brakes, mount the power steering reservoir somewhere else and that's about it.

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hoping to have it finished in a few weeks time so i can finally get to drive it cool

i also fitted 3 extra gauges in the 145's dash where the ash tray used to be

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don't mind a few extra dials laugh

maybe one day you coupe guys & gals will let me along to a meet so i can thank you all for being helpfull thumb

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1099317
09/09/2010 20:40
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a few more jobs done.
got the wheels finished now. the 4 spokes were pretty gouged and there was a fair amount of corrosion so took a bit of work to tidy them up.
gone for a different colour too, will see if i like it once they are on the car. look ok for now though.

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close up, it's a metallic grey colour

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my front mounted intercooler has arrived so this weekend i hope to get it mounted properly and most of the pipework plumbed in.

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on the car, about where it will eventually end up. shame i can't mount it exactly centrally but the pipe routing won't allow it with all the stuff i've to get round.

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hoping to have it on the road by the months end, or the first few weeks of october

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1102674
16/09/2010 20:40
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nearly done.

this is it parked with my sud & 156SW in the background

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managed to get the bits & bobs fitted so gave it a much needed wash, a month or 2 of dust now cleaned off. polish time soon cool

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new front discs & pads to go on this weekend, move the power steering reservoir to the passenger side and tidy up a few loose ends.
still a few little jobs to be done but now aiming to be on the road for oct 1st driving

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1143316
12/12/2010 20:19
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Good stuff, just noticed this.

I like the Sud, I had a 1.5Ti (Not an X) back in 1987, it was only 3 years old and still needed welding for it's MOT, brilliant car to drive though.

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1146587
20/12/2010 18:01
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used to have a sud 1.3 TI awsome first car but the usual problems ... the paint was not very good at holding the rust together

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: volumex] #1149307
28/12/2010 21:10
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i keep seeing your Alfa 145 at the ATS garage in Boston wink

Your a fitter there?

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1156671
14/01/2011 21:52
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not been on here for a fair while, kind of finished the project off now!
the car is in daily use as i've sold my alfa 156SW (yep dan, that's me ;)) and is a fairly good car. fun to drive with enough power and i'm getting 27mpg which isn't at all bad considering it's a lot of town driving cool

this was the intercooler fully fitted

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the final fitting under the bonnet

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the air intake, only place i could get it. does get cold air to it from behind the bumper so seems happy with it. the power steering reservoir ended up in this corner too as there wasn't room for it where the coupe has it.

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i've had a proper stainless exhaust made up now so it evens sounds good too. really nice when it's revved hard, proper fruity not unlike the old audi quattro rally cars as the exhaust builder said

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the size of the tailpipe makes it a bit too loud for daily use though so i will be going back to get a smaller one fitted.

i was thinking of selling it around christmas time but it's a really fun car to drive, suprises a few folks laugh maybe i will be able to come along to a coupe meet in the summer, be nice to see a few of you guys cool

the engine i bought from terry has proved to be a good one, holds great oil pressure (30 - 35psi when warm on tickover, around 65psi warm at running speeds) doesn't use much oil, water temp constant and no loss, hydraulic tappetts settled down nicely now too.

this is my sud which i brought up the drive this xmas time to warm the oil/water up, didn't take it onto the snow though. strictly a dry weather car that one laugh

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Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1156699
14/01/2011 22:44
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just for those who can remember the sud and how rusty it was (is :D) i'm currently restoring an early series 1 sud ti for a friend

he sent me these pictures to see if i could sort it out for him

relished the challenge, is almost solid now with the majority of the rot cut out and welded up cool
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Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1305125
11/01/2012 12:56
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Just a heads up for anybody that may be interested, this car will be up for sale at the end of this month hopefully.

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1305232
11/01/2012 16:32
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Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1305294
11/01/2012 18:31
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I will be looking for £2750 for her without tax. I am contemplating insuring her to tax and use for work whilst she it up for sale. In which case I shall ask about £2850.

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1305653
12/01/2012 18:46
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Not meaning to be rude.. but why? imo the Alfa 145 is a fugly car to pop the coupe engine into of all options?

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1305661
12/01/2012 19:03
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looks really good that, i love the look of the alfa 145's too.

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1305700
12/01/2012 21:19
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Its a matter of opinion... I dont like the look of the Fiat Coupe... but love 145's. Everybody is entitled to it.

The Coupe engine bolts straight in, all based on the Tipo model, as I and the person who done the converversion originally loved the 5 pot note... that engine was selected.

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1305715
12/01/2012 21:54
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The 145 also has a great load space.
If you need to get a washing machine from A to B at 150 MPH+ there can be no better choice smile

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: skinflint] #1305723
12/01/2012 22:06
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Originally Posted By: skinflint

If you need to get a washing machine from A to B at 150 MPH+ there can be no better choice than a poorly levelled Hotpoint Aqualtis on a quarry tiled kitchen floor...
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Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1305734
12/01/2012 22:16
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and that I suppose... cant do that in your Coupe!

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1305738
12/01/2012 22:26
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Lol, can barely fit the gf's handbag in the boot of a coupe!

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1305788
13/01/2012 06:28
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Must be a 20vt thing, Perf - I get a full-sized aircraft in the back of mine...


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Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1308728
21/01/2012 08:26
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Hopefully the engine will be going back in today!!! Excited!

Re: 20VT into an alfa 145 [Re: ] #1309412
23/01/2012 13:02
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and the engine is in!!!! PPHHAAWWW TIGHT!


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