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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: Kayjey]
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13/09/2010 23:55
13/09/2010 23:55
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MarioCirillo
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no but would love to see it done!
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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: MarioCirillo]
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14/09/2010 00:02
14/09/2010 00:02
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ikon
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777james777 has a kit fitted to his car. been in his car a number of times now and its veeeeeeery good . worth a pm, and if i remember rightly cost nearly half the price above.
Last edited by ikon; 14/09/2010 00:11.
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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: ikon]
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14/09/2010 20:28
14/09/2010 20:28
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ninja
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i looked at this some time ago and i remember reading Cruise control is easier to retro-fit to the VIS engine, cause its drive by wire rather than throttle cable.
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Re: Cruise control fitting
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15/09/2010 12:36
15/09/2010 12:36
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barnacle
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I've looked into it in the past, and worried that there's a lot of installation to do - and of course, this being a coupe, a lot of places to get it wrong. Most of the kits I came across were several hundred pounds. To be safe - dunno about the law, as far as I know you can just stick a brick on the loud pedal - you need to arrange for it to auto-disconnect when you hit the brake or clutch pedal, which means adding switches to at least one and ideally both of them. In a perfect world you'd want failsafe, so that hitting those pedals kills the power to the servo mechanically, even if the control unit's failed - but then, I'm an old and conservative engineer. Servos are often vacuum driven, which can be an issue with a turbo car, so you'd need an electrical servo, and you have to make space to fit it to the throttle body. Also you need a pickup from the speed sensor; getting the speed from the ECU is too slow for good servo response and non-recoverable if the link drops out at speed. This page is worth a look: http://www.conrad-anderson.co.uk/conradanderson-prices/cc-prices.htm (not a recommendation, just that they discuss some of the issues and have prices).
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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: barnacle]
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15/09/2010 15:11
15/09/2010 15:11
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ChimChim
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Strangely enough I've been thinking about cruise control recently and I found some kits on Ebay for £250-£300 but no idea of suitability etc.
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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: Kayjey]
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15/09/2010 22:28
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DLONGSTAFF
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Although an interesting idea/plan maybe for you people who drive motorways everyday. But not sure where in UK you really get the chance to use it? When I had a car with cc I used it to check that it worked, used it once as a novelty. The only good use was when driving through motorway roadworks 50mph speed limit time over distance. Set it, no worrying about overspeeding. Never looked at the aftermarket units but mine you set the speed, then you could 'toggle' fine tune up and down desired speed. And as soon as you touched the brake it would cancel the cc. Sounds alot to retro fit! What next? Auto?
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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: Kayjey]
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16/09/2010 08:05
16/09/2010 08:05
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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: Kayjey]
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16/09/2010 18:09
16/09/2010 18:09
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tim42
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Kayjey, I would think you would need to do a lot of motorway miles to want cruise control - found it very useful when I lived in the USA for a time (set at 55mph ), but it would never get used on my Coupe in SE England. Even on the motorways there is too much traffic going at different speeds to be useful IMHO, Tim
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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: Kayjey]
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17/09/2010 00:39
17/09/2010 00:39
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Mine gets used mostly on motorways, both here and in France and Belgium, so yes, I would be interested.
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Re: Cruise control fitting
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17/09/2010 13:56
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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: Kayjey]
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02/10/2010 15:09
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777james777
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I bought my kit off of eBay from the USA. It cost me £250. It works 100% as it should. It's interrupted by the brake pedal and the clutch. If mounted the ecu/motor on the left side of the dash and I've connected the cable to the throttle pedal so it pulls on the top to pivot the pedal down. Works faultlessly. I hooked it up to the rpm wire and the speed signal. Both off the ecu
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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: Kayjey]
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03/10/2010 10:52
03/10/2010 10:52
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777james777
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Yeah it has all those functions. I Didn't want a stalk so I opted for a controller that mounts flat. I've mounted it on the blue panel above the drivers vent so it's easy to see and easy to use. It was a bit of a pain setting up the ecu for it because it wanted to know about the speed sensor pulses so I went through all the options one by one until I had it set to work properly. Behind the ecu you have pins to move on/off to change certain settings. You have certai settings for gain and sensitivity etc. It was very useful being able to remove the dash end panels for this install
Last edited by 777james777; 03/10/2010 10:53.
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Re: Cruise control fitting
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03/10/2010 16:57
03/10/2010 16:57
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barnacle
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On the way to Curborough on Friday, I popped in at Conrad Anderson (thanks to Marco, Mario, and Lashes (and Mrs Lashes) who also found their way there).
They had a damn good look at the cars and how the kit would fit; extremely professional and painstaking.
The conclusion was to use the electric stepper motor servo, mounted somewhere under the passenger glovebox. A bowden cable runs across to the throttle, and a mount will be fabricated to control that cable at the throttle. Pickups from a magnetic reed switch on the clutch, the brake switch, and the speed sensor wires behind the dash.
This *is* doable at home but it's going to be tricky and fiddly; CA reckon 4-5 hours for them to do each installation and I'd recommend using them.
We didn't have a VIS to hand, but they think something essentially similar will act on the pedal directly.
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Re: Cruise control fitting
[Re: barnacle]
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03/10/2010 19:04
03/10/2010 19:04
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777james777
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It took me 2hrs to do mine. The ecu is hooked up to the rpm wire so if you press the clutch and the revs rise without the vehicle speed rising it will cut the cruise the ecu/motor is mounted under the passenger vent and the cable runs along the inside of the dash to the throttle pedal and I've secured it at various points and just in front of the pedal so it's able to pull on the pedal. When I get a chance I'll get the model of the cruise for you guys if you want James
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