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Re: Lower Brace
[Re: Ecrab]
#1117448
19/10/2010 22:52
19/10/2010 22:52
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dave_t
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No ... I agree ... I think it made a massive difference.
1deg negative camber and a stiffer rear ARB made even more difference though!
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1117500
20/10/2010 00:23
20/10/2010 00:23
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Per
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Exactly my point too.. Could hardly feel the strut brace, but the lower transformed the car, especially in acceleration. Sadly I've got used to it now.. Maybe i should take it off and compare again!
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Re: Lower Brace
[Re: Per]
#1117571
20/10/2010 10:23
20/10/2010 10:23
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proccy
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proccy
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another one agreeing it makes it better. the only fault is it grounds out a fair amount on crap roads/speedbumps etc.
also consider a whitleine arb, makes a big difference
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1117588
20/10/2010 10:42
20/10/2010 10:42
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the only fault is it grounds out a fair amount on crap roads/speedbumps etc. You're driving it wrong then I never ground mine out, but I have to negotiate the 'pillow' type speed bumps with the two tyres on / two tyres off method
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Re: Lower Brace
[Re: Nigel]
#1117680
20/10/2010 12:49
20/10/2010 12:49
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proccy
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proccy
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the only fault is it grounds out a fair amount on crap roads/speedbumps etc. You're driving it wrong then I never ground mine out, but I have to negotiate the 'pillow' type speed bumps with the two tyres on / two tyres off method i now avoid all speedbump roads i know of and, of course, do the 2 on/2 off thing too and it does work. round here though there's some absolutely huge full-width ones that catch. my car is quite low too which doesn't help.it grounded out a LOT round the back roads near cuborough recently when mcmike got us lost down some very narrow and lumpy roads
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1117705
20/10/2010 13:35
20/10/2010 13:35
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proccy
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proccy
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Full-width speed humps can't possibly ground out the subframe brace as its pretty much between the wheels yes in theory that's right, however they're so badly maintained here it's a joke it's also so low to the road that a few time srecently i've had to scrape roadkill off it
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1117707
20/10/2010 13:37
20/10/2010 13:37
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patch234
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Surely the height of the car will be the main factor, especially if you have lowered springs?
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1117713
20/10/2010 13:44
20/10/2010 13:44
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Hovedan
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No ... I agree ... I think it made a massive difference.
1deg negative camber and a stiffer rear ARB made even more difference though! I had a few laps round Combe this week (as a favour) just on the road tyres, not pushing it at all. Simply put, I could not believe the difference in handling between my porto with just the upper strut brace, and yours with the lower, arbs etc. Been offered an afternoon slot at Comber for £99 next Monday, but I'd like to get a few things done before and probably will time out. Mallory next for her on the 14th.
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1117720
20/10/2010 13:55
20/10/2010 13:55
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proccy
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proccy
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Surely the height of the car will be the main factor, especially if you have lowered springs? yes, even the AA managed to ground it whilst lifting it onto one of their low-loaders
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1117867
20/10/2010 17:27
20/10/2010 17:27
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Per
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Surely the height of the car will be the main factor, especially if you have lowered springs? Also how much work you put into making the brace higher. Depending on exaust, it's possible to get the brace to undertray-level, making it not much lower than std.
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Re: Lower Brace
[Re: Hovedan]
#1118009
20/10/2010 21:25
20/10/2010 21:25
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dave_t
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dave_t
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No ... I agree ... I think it made a massive difference.
1deg negative camber and a stiffer rear ARB made even more difference though! I had a few laps round Combe this week (as a favour) just on the road tyres, not pushing it at all. Simply put, I could not believe the difference in handling between my porto with just the upper strut brace, and yours with the lower, arbs etc. Glad you enjoyed it! Just wait til you get the track rubber on 1:23.1 is the best time I got round CC
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1118035
20/10/2010 22:01
20/10/2010 22:01
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Steve_G
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Steve_G
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They are dangerous on the nurbergring i ground mine coming out of the "Karussell".
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1118046
20/10/2010 22:25
20/10/2010 22:25
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sandytim
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I totally agree that the lower brace seems to make a bigger differance than the top brace...but maybe it's because it completes the job ,so to speak. In other words I bet every one puts the top brace on first and if it was the other way round perhaps the top brace would seem to have a greater effect. My Mods (in order of fitting) were; Tar ox brakes Top brace Lower brace Osravs & camber bolts solid bushes and Whiteline 22mm rear ARB I must say that the uprated ARB has really made the whole package come together and transformed the car. It's a pity I forgot to put some decent tyres on for Curborough Ecrab, I'll get you back next year
Last edited by sandytim; 20/10/2010 22:26.
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1118533
21/10/2010 20:14
21/10/2010 20:14
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sandytim
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No chance now I've got the lower brace, and a 22mm rear ARB soon Looser buys lunch ?
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Re: Lower Brace
[Re: sandytim]
#1118588
21/10/2010 21:30
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Ecrab
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That OK by me, looks like I'll be getting a free lunch then
Last edited by Ecrab; 21/10/2010 21:32.
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Re: Lower Brace
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#1118620
21/10/2010 22:25
21/10/2010 22:25
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sandytim
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That OK by me, looks like I'll be getting a free lunch then Lunch should taste good for you.......as long as you enjoy eating humble pie !! : Note to self; 350bhp before next curborough
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