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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1121983
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Originally Posted by Kayjey
And the fastest (speed) Fiat on wheels will most probably still be the Fiat Mefistofele. I would die to hear the groan of that beast! Does anybody know where it's currently caged?


It's normally kept in the Centro Storico in Turin, although it appears they do loan it out for exhibitions from time to time smile


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1122154
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Originally Posted by Kayjey
Sell it to me.


HAHA laugh sorry laugh

I will post up a photo tomorrow smile


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: MarioCirillo] #1122157
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Couldnt resist...

Mine is quite a crude model, i found it in a tiny little shop in italy last summer. It looks great on my living room table tho laugh

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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Ed] #1122167
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Originally Posted by Ed
Originally Posted by Kayjey
And the fastest (speed) Fiat on wheels will most probably still be the Fiat Mefistofele. I would die to hear the groan of that beast! Does anybody know where it's currently caged?


It's normally kept in the Centro Storico in Turin, although it appears they do loan it out for exhibitions from time to time smile


Spot on Ed, your memory serves you well wink
Visited the museum back in 2004 during the coop's 10th birtday meet held in Turin.
On the guided tour they fired up the 8V which stood near to 'our' yellow 16vt.
Here's a picture of the museum:
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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: ] #1122617
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Ed, now that I think of it you hadn't arrived as we visited the museum did you?
Anyway: dug up two pictures taken at the scene:
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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: ] #1122625
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The coolant cap design hasnt changed much laugh
Great photos Alesi!


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: MarioCirillo] #1122825
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Won't go far seemingly. Where's the engine? I remember an article in a magazine a few years ago of someone who had the chance of driving the beast. Maybe they're fixing it?


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1122880
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Your memory also serves you well Alesi smile We did miss the museum, was seriously gutted frown
Funnily enough, just found out the Mefistofele was at Auto Moto d’Epoca last week, where we can see it has now been reunited with it's engine...

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...and this press release confirms it's now back in working order smile


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1122900
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Originally Posted by Kayjey
Won't go far seemingly. Where's the engine? I remember an article in a magazine a few years ago of someone who had the chance of driving the beast. Maybe they're fixing it?


Hi there !

The Fiat Mefistofele was here ! laugh
Here where I work (Fiat Research Center), 'till the beginning of this summer.
My colleagues totally rebuilt the engine (obviously exactly as it was) because somebody broke it during a press presentation. banghead

Here a couple of photos I made in our workshop:

Fiat Mefistofele

I also have an audio file with the first start of the reborn engine ! wink

Other infos here: http://www.fiatcoupepassion.it/showthread.php?t=17187

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P.S. Mefistofele's speed record was of 234.98Km/h so a bit slower than a T20 stock. But it's displacement.... 21,700cc in 6 cylinders !!!

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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: ] #1124809
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Damn. That is just amazing. I would jump in my car right away and drive to Italy if you would tell me I could see it drive around. Soundfile PiZ, soundfile!!!!!!


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1124965
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Well I thought the Fiat Turbina would have been faster than Mephistopheles, but it say here only 160 mph http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Turbina but at the same rpm (22,000) as Mephistopheles has cc! smile


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: DaveG] #1124971
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So that IS faster then. But it's only an approximation. So, currently it all stands at:

- Coupe 20vt (250km/h)
- Turbina (ABOUT 250km/h yeah right wink + it would run out of gas before it would reach that speed)
- Mefistofele (235 km/h)

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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1125037
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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: ] #1125062
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Won't have a higher top speed I'm pretty certain.


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: ] #1125254
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Originally Posted by mayzon


That article is a little old now. Fiat / Abarth announced that they will be using the KTM x-bow chassis for the roadster


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1125259
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Originally Posted by Kayjey
Damn. That is just amazing. I would jump in my car right away and drive to Italy if you would tell me I could see it drive around. Soundfile PiZ, soundfile!!!!!!


Ahahah ! laugh
If I have news I'll let you know ! ;-)

For the soundfile....I will post it soon, I just have to find it in my home computer HD...

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Here it is !

Engine Start

...short but live on stage! smile

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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: ] #1125610
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Indeed - it's the devil.


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1125611
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You give me a yell when you're driving it to the museo storico PiZ.


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1125679
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Ok.... one more thing:

Surprise !

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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: ] #1125682
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Those are lucky people. Imagine sitting in / on that beast going 235 km/h, arms out of the cockpit, with that chain right under your arm, what if it snaps...

I'm impressed every time I see it. And what a groan!


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1126120
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PiZ, Thanks for the "surprise". It was great to see and hear this wonderful car running.

I showed this clip plus your 'stills' last night, 4/11, at the monthly meeting of the Fiat Car Club of Queensland. All were appreciative of your efforts in sharing this with other Fiat fanatics. It brought back memories to some of our members who have seen this historic car and one even told us, how, 20 years ago, she and her daughter sat in it.

Ahh, the power of this Forum!

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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Possum] #1126125
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Originally Posted by Possum
PiZ, Thanks for the "surprise". It was great to see and hear this wonderful car running.

I showed this clip plus your 'stills' last night, 4/11, at the monthly meeting of the Fiat Car Club of Queensland. All were appreciative of your efforts in sharing this with other Fiat fanatics. It brought back memories to some of our members who have seen this historic car and one even told us, how, 20 years ago, she and her daughter sat in it.

Ahh, the power of this Forum!


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1127294
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Originally Posted by Kayjey
So that IS faster then. But it's only an approximation. So, currently it all stands at:

- Coupe 20vt (250km/h)
- Turbina (ABOUT 250km/h yeah right wink + it would run out of gas before it would reach that speed)
- Mefistofele (235 km/h)

?


So where would the 2.4 Dino fit in as I have not seen a top speed quoted for it, but, having travelled in one yesterday for over 200km, one would expect it to be well above 200kph?

I have seen 0-100 figures which puts it comparable to the 16VT.


Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Possum] #1127333
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180 bhp. So probably around 215 - 220 kph.


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: Kayjey] #1127335
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Less even...

209kph / 130mph
0-60 in 8.7
quarter mile in 16.10


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Re: Is the Coupe 20VT still the fastest Fiat [Re: ] #1129810
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Alesi,
I see in your photo inside Centro Storico what looks like a yellow Coupe.
They must regularly change the cars on display because I was there 5 weeks ago and there was no Coupe in there at all, and cars seem to be located differently.
The 8 of us on the tour (Centro Storico, Abarth and Fiat Factories) had a group photo taken with Mephistofeles.
By the way, I drove a rental Fiat Panda for 3 days in Turin and it doesn't come near to being a a subject for discussion in this thread! wink

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@Wazza: take a look at the video I shot during the meeting: here .
At approx 3 min 55 the entrance to the Centro Storico appears on screen. The yellow coop was situated opposite the 8V.
BTW: should you had mentioned your visit to Turin I'm sure the Piemonte Coupé FIAT club would have given you a warm welcome.
Now show us that group photo cool

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Alesi,
Wow!!! Thanks for that video link - I'm impressed at the sheer number of Coupes at that meeting and the royal treatment you got as you zipped about Torino. I could have done with a bit of that a few weeks back as we drove around in the Panda.
Here's the photo of the 8 of us in Centro Storico...
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Out of the 4 guys in the photo, 3 of us own 4 Coupes!
(The guys in black and I'm on the far right)

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