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UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout #1146526
20/12/2010 16:32
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We are looking to organise an Outlaw Street FWD shootout, they are massive in the US and with the number of fast FWD cars in the uk increasing yearly now seems like a good time to pull them all together in on location, for one weekend only

We are still in the planning stages at the moment, but please show your interest by following us on facebook

UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout

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Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1146543
20/12/2010 17:07
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are you looking for cars to compete??

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1146546
20/12/2010 17:22
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What else, no competitors would make for a dull shoot out smile

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: chrissy] #1158629
19/01/2011 03:55
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I'm up for it smile

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1159921
21/01/2011 15:32
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Competitors and/or sponsors smile

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1159922
21/01/2011 15:32
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The Date and Venue have now been announced

Sunday 21 Aug 2011 at Santapod

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Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1159927
21/01/2011 15:40
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i would like to go to this! just to watch!

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1159987
21/01/2011 18:03
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how many runs are people getting

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: Jack] #1160800
23/01/2011 22:46
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It will be 3 qualifying runs, then top 16 cars go through, then 4 rounds of knock outs.

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1161464
25/01/2011 08:05
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The Website has now been launched. All the information you need is on there. It lists rules, prizes, sponsors, how to enter etc…

www.outlawshootout.co.uk

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Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1161509
25/01/2011 10:55
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None of the current uk fiat coupe's are quick enough to compete at this level unfortunately, and in the rules 5 cyl cars are not even permitted. This would seem only open to the 16vt guys and nobody in the uk has a serious enough one to compete.

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1162190
26/01/2011 16:11
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we can modify the rules if 5cyl cars want to join. Its only the weights, and it would come half way between 4 and 6 smile

Its not always the fastest cars that win on the day, reliability has a lot to pay in it. In the HKS series 50% of the time the fastest car doesnt win.

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1162305
26/01/2011 20:16
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There would be no point, other than for personal entertainment

The fastest Coupe quarter is a high eleven, which would see us a long way down the times (several UK FWD cars are now breaking into the high nines)

Even stripped out, a Coupe is around 1200kg, which puts us at a massive disadvantage compared with the sub-1000kg flyweights.

I reckon a Coupe would need 800+ bhp in order to compete, and even then, traction would be a massive issue


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Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: Nigel] #1162532
27/01/2011 13:03
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i may do it if we can sort out what class etc i would be in and it looks i have a chance of qualifying but like nigel says i doubt i will be that competetive particularly in view of the fact i have never done a 1/4 mile run as yet..(though theres plenty of time to change that before the event)

i don't think there would be any point in me going for more power to try and get anywhere though i could quite easily make more as i am going to struggle with traction anyway and breaking things

anyway i am game for it

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Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1162744
27/01/2011 21:00
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As two of us have found out to our costs, too much traction is very bad for gearboxes - the diff just isn't up to it

Also, if you've never done a quarter mile before, you really need to get some practice - its pretty difficult to launch a standard Coupe in order to get the book figure quarter time (circa 14.5 seconds). When you double the power, I reckon it more than doubles the difficulty level

When I went from 300bhp to 400+, my times got slower for the first few runs - I reckon it took at least ten runs (over two or three events) before I got the hang of it

Sadly, I won't be doing any more drag runs, as I now know I have sufficient power to break a diff frown


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Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1162776
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laugh

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Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1163246
28/01/2011 18:50
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If you have big power, track tyres and a grippy surface, release the clutch a bit more gently, if you release it fast at 5000rpm that sends a massive impact straight through the diff and gearbox.

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1163732
29/01/2011 23:38
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surely one of the new big power coupes have enough to rip the lower power light weight cars?

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1163743
30/01/2011 00:37
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for the same price you can do totb and you get 1/4 mile, top speed, and circuit plus they dont discriminate against 5 cylinders

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: Nigel] #1164025
30/01/2011 21:36
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Originally Posted By: Nigel

Sadly, I won't be doing any more drag runs, as I now know I have sufficient power to break a diff frown


Run a APEXI Boost controler and set it low in first gear?

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1164163
31/01/2011 10:18
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Originally Posted By: adam6900
Originally Posted By: Nigel

Sadly, I won't be doing any more drag runs, as I now know I have sufficient power to break a diff frown


Run a APEXI Boost controler and set it low in first gear?

Still wont help. When you dial in 4000rpm and dump the clutch a boost controller isn't going to help save the gearbox


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Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: Begbie] #1164171
31/01/2011 10:37
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Originally Posted By: Begbie
Still wont help. When you dial in 4000rpm and dump the clutch a boost controller isn't going to help save the gearbox


Agreed - if I had performed the same launch in a standard car, the diff would still have broken - it was the shock load of too much traction, trying to shift a 1400+kg car - something had to give - normally its the tyres, but with the track being super-sticky that day, something else broke frown


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Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: Nigel] #1164191
31/01/2011 10:56
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that track was soooo sticky it was crazy.

pod claimed alot of gearbox's that day.
still shocked how you managed to limp it down the 1/4 mile Nigel!?

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1164385
31/01/2011 16:37
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Guess we need to re-think the way forward to make a faster 1/4 mile. Faster spool-up, faster torque delivery? Spare gearbox..lol

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1164388
31/01/2011 16:40
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Originally Posted By: Nazo
Guess we need to re-think the way forward to make a faster 1/4 mile. Faster spool-up, faster torque delivery? Spare gearbox..lol


...and a trailer?? silly

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1164391
31/01/2011 16:49
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It seems a shame to break Coupes drag-racing when they are one of the prettiest and most capable GTs ever. Track days are fun (although I'd never risk breaking mine), but leave the drag tracks alone unless your Coupe is surplus to requirements IMHO

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1164420
31/01/2011 17:57
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Originally Posted By: tim42
It seems a shame to break Coupes drag-racing when they are one of the prettiest and most capable GTs ever. Track days are fun (although I'd never risk breaking mine), but leave the drag tracks alone unless your Coupe is surplus to requirements IMHO


^^^^ +1 couldn't agree more.

Leave the drag strip for those lighter creatures better suited!

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1164535
31/01/2011 21:41
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Originally Posted By: tim42
It seems a shame to break Coupes drag-racing when they are one of the prettiest and most capable GTs ever.


One of the most sensible statements I've read on here in over 4 years. cool

Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1169765
11/02/2011 20:10
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This event is gathering momentum now, with 9 confirmed entrants from the UK some coming over from Ireland, and Denmark, with others expected to join from Malta and Germany. More sponsors are getting involved weekly. If you would like to become a sponsor checkout the sponsorship page. Also if you’re interested in entering checkout the rulesrules and Apply Online pages.

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Re: UK Outlaw Street FWD Shootout [Re: ] #1176911
25/02/2011 19:39
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We would like to thank all our sponsors for helping make this happen.
The total prize money promised now stands at over £3000


This means that the prize money is currently
1st prize at least £1500
Runner up at least £500
Loosing semi finalists at least £200


with additional prizes already in place for
Quickest NA ET £100
Quickest Nitrous Car ET £150
Quickest Reaction Time £100
Fastest 60' Time £200
Fastest 1/8 MPH £100
First 150mph car £100

This event is going to be huge. We would like to thank


Drive shaft shop www.driveshaftshop.com
TDi North www.tdi-north.com
Quaife www.quaife.co.uk
Wizards of NOS www.noswizard.com
EFI Parts www.efi-parts.co.uk
CPL Racing www.cplracing.co.uk
S1 Chiropractic www.s1chiropractic.com
TTS Performance www.rotrexsuperchargers.co.uk
Renault Turbo O.C www.rtoc.org
Garage 786 www.garage786.co.uk
Concept Graphix www.conceptgraphix.com

Lou Connor

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