Fiat Coupe Forum
- Founded by Kayjey & James Northam
- Funded by the Club for the benefit of all owners
Fiat Coupe Club UK
join the club
Fiat Coupe Forum
 
» Announced
    Posting images


» Related sites
    Main club site
    fiatcoupe.net


» External data
    owners listed
 
Who's Online Now
2 registered members (achineth, Andrew20V), 198 guests, and 2 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums69
Topics113,599
Posts1,341,096
Members1,801
Most Online731
Jan 14th, 2020
Top Posters(All Time)
barnacle 33,553
stan 32,122
Theresa 23,300
PeteP 21,512
bockers 21,071
JimO 17,917
Nigel 17,367
Edinburgh 16,787
RSS Feeds
Club Events
Club Information
Track Events
Rolling Road/RWYB
Social Events
Non-UK Events
Coupé Related Chat
Coupé Spotting
Coupé News/Press
Buying/Selling Advice
Insuring a Coupé
Basic FAQ's
How to Guides
Forum Issues
Technical Problems
General Maintenance
Styling
Tuning
Handling
ICE and Alarm
Coupés for Sale
Coupés Wanted
Parts for Sale
Parts Wanted
Group Buys
Business Forum
Other Vehicles for Sale/Wanted
Other Items for Sale/Wanted
Haggling/Offers
Ebay links
Other Cars
Other Websites
General Chat
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
TOTB X #1163723
29/01/2011 23:13
29/01/2011 23:13
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
The date for TOTB 2011 has been set - 30th and 31st July, at Elvington in Yorkshire

I know I've said this before, but this time I really mean it - I won't be entering

However, I don't mind helping out with organisation, so here we go (again) with the call for SERIOUS intentions to compete

Let's make it clear from the start - just entering this event takes a lot of effort, a fair bit of cash and a decent amount of skill. To show up in the top half of the results tables is really going some and takes a massive effort over an extended period of time.

You WILL need:-

Trackday tyres
VERY good brakes
At least 400bhp, preferably closing on 500bhp
VERY stripped out
Very good suspension
Harnesses
Lots of practice


Right - now I've tried to put you off, here's the deal - you have to show the Coupe Club organiser PROOF of a 12.99 or better quarter mile time, achieved on a recognised UK drag strip this year

If I'm organising it (Begbie - are you OK with this?) I'll be happy to help as much as I can, but I need genuine, serious intent.

Previous years have been littered with well-intentioned statements that they "will definitely be there", only for them all to fall by the wayside in the months leading up to the event. IMHO, only Leighton had a good excuse for not turning up.

So - who is up for it?


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1163726
29/01/2011 23:19
29/01/2011 23:19

N
Nobby
Unregistered
Nobby
Unregistered
N



I've got a good excuse* - my little un is due in late July





* and my car isn't powerful enough laugh

Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1163727
29/01/2011 23:21
29/01/2011 23:21

J
jonnybgt1759
Unregistered
jonnybgt1759
Unregistered
J



Why are you not doing it this year nigel? You need to get 1st spot back in the handling class?

Last edited by jonnybgt1759; 29/01/2011 23:26. Reason: didnt read it properly lol
Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1163753
30/01/2011 01:13
30/01/2011 01:13

M
Marco20valveT
Unregistered
Marco20valveT
Unregistered
M



Not enough money to finish the engine, suspension is not good enough...

Good luck who ever goes for it!!!!

Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1163772
30/01/2011 02:20
30/01/2011 02:20
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 19,937
North wales
pinin_prestatyn Offline
Forum veteran
pinin_prestatyn  Offline
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 19,937
North wales
Would be an awful shame to not have a coupé in the comp this year. Time for somebody to step up and be a hero! If you all want to get a bit of cash together and make my coupé 400BHP and buy some sticky rubber, I'll be that man tongue laugh Oh and some instruction from Nigel, I'm cr@p at launching my coupé.



Coopless!
Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1163823
30/01/2011 11:25
30/01/2011 11:25
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Originally Posted By: jonnybgt1759
Why are you not doing it this year nigel?


because I've done it for six consecutive years, and probably spent over £5k in the process

The effort involved is becoming tiresome (it takes an entire day to strip the car down, and then three days [at least] to put it all back together again)

Plus - the last time I launched the car in anger, I destroyed a gearbox and I simply cannot afford to do it again

Finally - I wouldn't mind actually watching some cars - I reckon in the last six years, I've watched less than a dozen quarter miles - I'm always parked in the queue or waiting around for scrutineering etc


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1163824
30/01/2011 11:26
30/01/2011 11:26
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Oh - another reason - I haven't got any trackday tyres or race seats now, so that would be another £1000+ onto the cost


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1163831
30/01/2011 11:50
30/01/2011 11:50

M
Marco20valveT
Unregistered
Marco20valveT
Unregistered
M



I would lend you my seat and harness!!

Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1163841
30/01/2011 12:41
30/01/2011 12:41
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Originally Posted By: Marco20valveT
I would lend you my seat and harness!!


Thanks, but I won't be swayed - I simply can't afford to break the car again, and I know that once I'm on the startline, I wouldn't hold back


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1163973
30/01/2011 18:57
30/01/2011 18:57

K
ktm450exc
Unregistered
ktm450exc
Unregistered
K



i will do it as long as my car is running well..when you say you do not have good enough suspension does that mean if i bought osravs i would not have good enough either? at this stage i still have not bought any

Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1163988
30/01/2011 19:32
30/01/2011 19:32
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
It was Marco that said his suspension wasn't good enough

I reckon Osravs would be fine - I competed with them for three years


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1164000
30/01/2011 20:13
30/01/2011 20:13

K
ktm450exc
Unregistered
ktm450exc
Unregistered
K



don't know what happened there! must have all blurred into one reading quickly ...anyway ...

i am serious and i will do it, i have a momo seat(though its tight and maybe swapped) and a couple of harnesses, a spare set of team dynamic 1.2 with dunlop max sport rb5's, i will have osrav front, avo rear , not sure about rest of the suspension set up but it will be 22ml rear arb ,seam welded sbframe if its a good idea? strut brace ,bottom brace,camber bolts,solid rears, polly bushed wishbone and drop links,along with having it properly set up..can you think of anything that may help?..as for power i should be good to run over 500 on track..what do you think?

would you be prepared to help me and teach me as much as i can absorb? i would be happy to pick you up and drive us to a trackday somewhere for some pointers ..i know you have an excellent track record (no pun intended) so i would think that a one on one would be more benificial than a million posts

Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1164001
30/01/2011 20:21
30/01/2011 20:21

K
ktm450exc
Unregistered
ktm450exc
Unregistered
K



you could also help me find the best settings etc for the car as i have no experience..i am sure you will notice anything that needs changing or adding to the set up

i hadn't added brakes to the above for now all i have is very good discs and pads on refurbed calipers..i am trying to sort out a set of either gta or porsche and hopefully will have them by summer

all this of course depends on the car running well and the mapping being able to release its potential (which i am confident will be good)

Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1164003
30/01/2011 20:25
30/01/2011 20:25
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
You certainly appear to have all the right kit - you will need to make sure it's set up properly

With a top & bottom brace, I don't believe there's any need for a welded subframe, but I don't suppose it can do any harm

In my opinion, for a true track weapon, you'll need a stiffer rear ARB - 22mm is fine for spirited road driving and modest track work, but you'll still get understeer. 24mm will make it much more pointy, but you will get lift-off oversteer if you push it really hard. Mine gives some lift off oversteer with a 23mm ARB, but its very controllable

As for tuition, I've never provided it on any basis other than guiding my son round Curborough in his Punto. However, I'm happy to help as best I can, including coming out on a trackday with you.

Note that for TOTB, you must have two seats fitted, but some entries have a ridiculously minimal seat, such as a plastic karting seat

As for your tyres - sorry, they won't be allowed. Any tyre at TOTB has to carry a DOT mark, so you're going to be restricted to the normal road legal trackday tyres from Toyo, Yokohama, Dunlop etc


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1164019
30/01/2011 21:10
30/01/2011 21:10

K
ktm450exc
Unregistered
ktm450exc
Unregistered
K



thanks ...i'm already looking forward to learning a new set of skills!...
so it looks like i had better get on the group buy 24ml or try and do a trade of some sort..do you think with a 24ml a dedra front would be a good idea?
whats the score with the eibach kit? i think barbz finds it a little imbalanced for his driving style though i could be wrong and will ask him later..if you have any experience with it i would like to hear

as soon as the car is all done and ready then ..though i have the sub 13 to do which the car will have no issue with lets hope the driver wont

Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1164035
30/01/2011 22:12
30/01/2011 22:12
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
My recommendation would be to fit the 24mm rear ARB and leave the front standard - you can then play with the balance using camber and tyre pressures. If the rear is still too lively, you can fit a Dedra front ARB to even it up a bit

I've never driven a car with the Eibach kit


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1164047
30/01/2011 22:43
30/01/2011 22:43

K
ktm450exc
Unregistered
ktm450exc
Unregistered
K



ok i'm on it

Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1164194
31/01/2011 11:09
31/01/2011 11:09
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,294
Sandhurst
Begbie Offline
Ex El Presidente
Begbie  Offline
Ex El Presidente
I AM a Coop

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 12,294
Sandhurst
Originally Posted By: Nigel
If I'm organising it (Begbie - are you OK with this?)

Fine by me, drop me a PM and I'll dig out the TOTB organisers email address


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1168679
09/02/2011 14:30
09/02/2011 14:30

X
xcjt147x
Unregistered
xcjt147x
Unregistered
X



pm'd Nigel

Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1169087
10/02/2011 10:15
10/02/2011 10:15

S
sparco
Unregistered
sparco
Unregistered
S



No good for me then i'm on slicks now, damn!!!

Not that keen on the 1/4 mile stuff but i would like a bash at the handling circuit.

Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1169091
10/02/2011 10:23
10/02/2011 10:23

E
eldinho
Unregistered
eldinho
Unregistered
E



Your car has to be road legal anyway.

Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1169104
10/02/2011 11:10
10/02/2011 11:10
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Mark's correct - the car must be taxed and MOT'd and running DOT-marked tyres


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1169112
10/02/2011 11:25
10/02/2011 11:25

S
sparco
Unregistered
sparco
Unregistered
S



Was the gobstopper taxed and mot'd???

Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1169130
10/02/2011 11:56
10/02/2011 11:56
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Originally Posted By: sparco
Was the gobstopper taxed and mot'd???



I rather doubt it - along with half the field at recent TOTB events, I think the organisers were just shown *any* logbook and MOT and they just turned a blind eye

annoying really - TOTB has lost its original mantra of "finding the fastest road-legal cars in the UK" and its moved heavily towards "finding the jap rally slag that's had the most money thrown at it"


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1169131
10/02/2011 11:59
10/02/2011 11:59
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1169451
11/02/2011 01:04
11/02/2011 01:04
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 19,937
North wales
pinin_prestatyn Offline
Forum veteran
pinin_prestatyn  Offline
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 19,937
North wales



Coopless!
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1170147
12/02/2011 23:45
12/02/2011 23:45

K
ktm450exc
Unregistered
ktm450exc
Unregistered
K



nigel just letting you know my intentions are still serious and i have now got a 24ml whiteline arb, osravs front and some as yet untried adjustable prototype rears that adjust via a dial so you can just reach under the rear arch! as i really can't be arsed taking them off everytime i want to go on a track (am keeping some koni rears though just in case i have to order the osrav rears and have to wait another 4 weeks as i have to for the fronts) anyway the car will be ready shortly so i take it my first objective will be to do a sub 13? do i need to enter? square anything with the club or anyone else?

Last edited by ktm450exc; 13/02/2011 01:37.
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1170183
13/02/2011 00:52
13/02/2011 00:52

W
westcoupe
Unregistered
westcoupe
Unregistered
W



If my car is running well and if I manage to make it lighter I may compete this year

Re: TOTB X [Re: ] #1170270
13/02/2011 11:46
13/02/2011 11:46
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Originally Posted By: ktm450exc
so i take it my first objective will be to do a sub 13? do i need to enter? square anything with the club or anyone else?


Yes - your first requirement is to post a PROVEN 12.99 or better (a 13.00 is too slow)

Once you've done this, you will be allowed to enter - entry forms are usually made available in late Spring, so no need to worry just yet

Begbie has OK'd me to take over the arrangements this year, so I'll be acting as Club rep - anything that you need to know, ask me

Probably worthwhile registering for the Straightliners forum too - there's a TOTB section - go to http://www.straightliners-events.co.uk/forum/index.php


[Linked Image]
Re: TOTB X [Re: Nigel] #1170272
13/02/2011 11:47
13/02/2011 11:47
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Nigel Offline OP
Forum veteran
Nigel  Offline OP
Forum veteran

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,367
Staffordshire
Actually - I stand corrected - entries are now open via the above website


[Linked Image]
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1
(Release build 20190129)
PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.058s Queries: 15 (0.043s) Memory: 0.8738 MB (Peak: 1.0846 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-04-28 09:44:01 UTC