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some ideas and thoughts sought
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17/03/2011 20:17
17/03/2011 20:17
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zimpara
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So here's my list. Standard turbo (360 bearings etc) K and n cone Gtec 1 Fuel pump mod Decat full stainless pipe,
Now what happens if you throw a turbo revs cooler into the mix? Obviously price is the only reason why I'm thinking of that one.
And is the noise difference worth the power when you de cat, car will only have 1 small rear baffler
With the tb28 on hybrid bearings etc (not R or RS) is it still only efficient to 1.2 bar. I assume so.
So power figures please? Or thoughts? Thanks
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#1187163
17/03/2011 20:24
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tim42
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Don't have a decat (a 200 mesh race cat instead) but my Scottie is running 271bhp and even better 278lb/ft torque with the rest of the kit you have. Quite quick enough for me and pulls really well, although it was fun seeing the monsters at Donington at the weekend  .
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#1187174
17/03/2011 20:48
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zimpara
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What exhaust do you have? And any idea what variance there is power wise between systems?
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#1187577
18/03/2011 14:54
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h2ypr
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I would buy an uprated SMIC before I bought that turborevs one.
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18/03/2011 14:58
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zimpara
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18/03/2011 15:02
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h2ypr
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For the power your running and the mods you have, if you don't plan to go beyond 290bph, get pace SMIC.
A FMIC on your tubro/setup will be laggier and overkill.
Apart from the fact that any aftermarket FMIC that i've fitted has always been woeful at providing any improvement in cooling. I haven't fitted pro-alloy, but have tried various other.
Ross
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#1187659
18/03/2011 17:32
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Apart from the fact that any aftermarket FMIC that i've fitted has always been woeful at providing any improvement in cooling. I haven't fitted pro-alloy, You've answered your own question there.... ProAlloy has been proven to be by far the best FMIC solution for the Coupe, although this is reflected in the cost
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18/03/2011 18:51
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I was acknowledging that the Pro Alloy was a good one to consider in my head, but re-reading the post, it doesn't come across that way. lol
Also it reads like I never had a FMIC fitted, but I had EVO 6 fitted to my coupe.
Ross
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#1187753
18/03/2011 20:25
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the evo 6 is one which barbz speaks highly of, is the pace SMIC ok all the way up to 290bhp without the chargecooler
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18/03/2011 21:47
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zimpara
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intercooler is another name for a charge cooler
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18/03/2011 21:55
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I've got the evo6 on mine and never had a problem with it. The pro alloy unnecessarily expensive imo.
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#1187809
18/03/2011 22:05
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intercooler is another name for a charge cooler No it isn't ? A charge cooler uses water to cool the air (or remove the heat from it). An intercooler uses air.
Ex 432bhp '00 Sprinty 20vt6 '17 S3 Sportback '69 Amazon 131
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#1187810
18/03/2011 22:06
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zimpara
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is that running standard turbo? from what i can see there is 30 hp in a good after market intercooler ....but maybe that is with a 28r
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#1187815
18/03/2011 22:09
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zimpara
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bollocks its called a charge cooler beacause the inlet air is a charge in its own right< and its going through a cooler,. air to air cooler is what we are talking about anyway, and your thinking about stars or something
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#1187816
18/03/2011 22:10
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zimpara, a chargecooler uses a water cooled core through which the air passes through, cooling it as it does, the water in the chargecooler core is cooled through a radiator mounted at the front which circulates the water round the chargecooler core so taffy is right in that it is essentially water that is cooling the charge air
also no intercooler is going to give you 30bhp when run in conjunction with a standard turbo
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#1187819
18/03/2011 22:15
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bollocks its called a charge cooler beacause the inlet air is a charge in its own right< and its going through a cooler,. air to air cooler is what we are talking about anyway, and your thinking about stars or something 
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#1187821
18/03/2011 22:15
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not to my understanding, thats just water spray onto the cooler. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh actually im thinking of charge air cooler which is air to air,.. fine sorry bout that taff
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#1187829
18/03/2011 22:25
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still neither here nor there! because its air to air or air to liquid(aqua mist) sort of thing,. chargecooler suits me fine!
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#1187835
18/03/2011 22:32
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hi joe. as im sure you heard my voice mail today screaming at that engine mount> no i havent. its just my understanding that intercooler chargecooler and after cooler are the same things - minus the fact that you have air to air and air to liquid? can you set me straight.
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#1187837
18/03/2011 22:33
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Charge coolers not an aqua mist pal. Basically a heat exchanger containing water fitted within the pipework to cool down the charge air as it travels past the heat exchanger...water is pumped through that heat exchanger from its own reservoir so shouldn't have to fill the reservoir..where as the aqua mists sprays water onto the inter cooler itself to cool down. thats as i understand it..
Big tuning guide at the top i think mate
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#1187851
18/03/2011 23:03
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zimpara
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Technology has moved on since I learnt this stuff
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#1187855
18/03/2011 23:07
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Yes - cars have disk brakes and heaters now you know  Only joking, I didn't know what a charge cooler was either until I saw one on the patch mobile.
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#1187872
18/03/2011 23:28
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#1187884
18/03/2011 23:41
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Standard turbo (360 bearings etc) K and n cone Gtec 1 Fuel pump mod Decat full stainless pipe
From this list :
change the cone filter for a panel filter-better supply of cool air and quieter gtec 1 for a flea map-safer and more power fuel pump mod-cheap but is it needed? decat-you'll need a cat for an mot
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#1187901
19/03/2011 00:22
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19/03/2011 00:31
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zimpara
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We have been over this already with my max power dvd thread lol
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