i can get these made up in stainless steel... same design as before .. would anybody be interested in any? but before i get them done i was wondering if there was enough interest in them. they would be £23 deliverd like before.

this thread is for interest only and to see if there is any want for them. the sale thread is being made at the mo

Had these ages and following a recent brake pad change and subsequent starting of squealling I will attempt to install to stop it,

But which way;
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/abarthroo/87e242e2.jpg
or
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g46/abarthroo/b89e31b2.jpg

Gut feel says pic 1

Also when installing - loads of coppergrease between the shim and the pad and between the shim and the caliper piston(s)

Or just "naked" between the pad and shim and grease between the shim and pistons ??

Personally I'd would grease the two gaps both

Suggestions or recommendations ??

R00

pic 1 and grease both sides

but if you think 2 is right, why not go the whole hog and install with lip to the inside, but put the shim between the pad and disc! (just kidding, sorry)

As they are not OEM you can put them in however you like. Id put them in #1 though

I used pagid cera tec instead of copper grease, been squeal free for over a year.

Dave G --> joker !!

jame5 - that cera tec - is it grease (lubricant) or some kinda heat tempered bonding agent ?? And did you need the use of shims or just onto pad backing ??

Thanks for comments so far fella's

R00

Scrub the last comment read the link chatted to the local alfa garage I'll pop in there tomorrow an steal some of their product

For future jame5 where did you buy you cera tec from ? Online or a standard shop ?

I will get these buggers to stop squealin

Thanks all

R00

I used shims with the cera tec, i got mine from euro car parts.

nice thanks chap.

Must be mad but am gonna start in a minute - shouldnt take too long got it down to an art now.

lol

R00

Ha! Was going to bleed my brakes by myself this evening, thought better of it. Will get the misses to help tomorrow.

does the cera-tec work without shims , just use it instead of copper grease ? or will i need to get some shims to ?

Might help, but the shims are cheap and easy to fit so if your taking the pads out to re-grease them you might as well fit the shims while your there.

yeh they are cheap, just wasnt sure if they were available to buy just now , or rather a little down the line when i have engine problems sorted out

think i will rebuild my calipers again when i fit these just cos im gay like that !

Rebuilding calipers should cure any brake squeal problems, when the calipers are split, remove the pad guides and clean any corrosion from underneath. This corrosion forces the guides up and makes them bind on the pads and causes the squealing. The shims are are a quick fix (and work most of the time) as rebuilding the calipers can be a right pain.

well I got this trade stuff they use at the garage - Tunap 113 micrologic - slapped a load in on Friday night and took it for a spin - it was a considerable difference - then gradually over the weekend its started to get worse, and yup they were looking quiet shabby (corrosion wise) looks like a rebuild is needed

but the paste idea was a good step in the right direction - i'm hoping that usage might resolve the remaining sqweeks

my calipers have a few marks etc so i wa already thinking of sripping and painting them , could restore and service them in one go and hopefully get some of the many noises eliminated

well after reading another thread I think I might well just have to take it for a nice blast in germany up and down the local autbahn.....

To Really get some high speed usage out of the pads - it might resolve the noises (please resolve it)
or else its a stripping time arrrrrrgh more time in the garage

R00

Anymore experiences with ceratec?

Yep, I concur, I have the same set up as James, Shims and Cera-Tec - Pagid black pads and 3G 20 groove discs on the front. I had terrible squeal with just the shims, but after completely cleaning of the previous copper grease off and applying liberal amounts of cera-tec to both sides of the shims where the piston meets the plate I cured the imfamous 20VT sqeal No more hiding at traffic lights & junctions and my hand brake gets some time off Use it it's Grrrrreat
P.S. I only cleaned the piston faces and the back of the pads and the shims. I had no need to re-build the calipers