...that the very early 16/16vt Coupe (or maybe just the pre-production models) came with

- a round FIAT steering wheel badge
- the 16v/16vt script positioned lower down on the B pillar
- an oil pressure gauge that goes up to 6 bar

After all these years I only just spotted that in the early brochures, you can see it in the shot of the instrument panel of a blue one in the UK brochures which came out quite a bit later than the brochures in the rest of Europe

It has all coupe without airbag..

Pics pics pics....
please

6 bar of paranoia! I think that would have even more oil pressure questions and "help, I'm only seeing x bar at x revs" than even Stan could lock!

oil pressure on the 16v's are never high on hot tick over from what ive seen of them. I always get in, panic then remember its a 16v and come back down from 50.000 feet

6 bar

Agreed, my old one managed about 0.8 bar very hot.

I doubt it even saw 6 on full chat

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So did any of these 6 bar gauges ever make it out onto the streets? Not the most useful design however, each division is 0.75 bar
Large red pic from 1994 German brochure
Small red pic from first proper 1995 UK brochure (square one)
Small blue pic from second UK brochure (A4 size)

Dave - the blue piccy has near-identical elements to the red one - could it simply be a photoshopped version of the red one?

9 miles on all the photos , it must be .

Yes, that's what I thought, it appeared on a page with a blue Coupe, so maybe they just fished around in the image bank and got creative with Photoshop...

And whilst the lower B pillar badge is seen on some press photos and early review articles, they never featured in any of the early brochures AFAIK.

(and it's 9km )

Blue one is almost certainly Photoshop.

Interestingly (or not!), the diagram on EPER also shows it going up to 6 bar. Not going to order an early product code to see though!

There is a low badged model up for sale in Italy here.

the badges look better higher up the b pillars but nice find Ed never see that before .

Mad never noticed just had a browse through the 95 brochure to and as you say theres the big red pic small side shot aswell.

Got to say though in this case I see why they changed to the rectangle badge the round one just looks stuck on not really a fan looks nice to see something different though. 8)

Bradders

Hmph. 2.5 bar hot at a hundred and sixty thousand miles do you?

Here's an observation: my 16NA steering wheel has the 'fiat' embossing in black; on the 20s it's in blue...

That was the conclusion I came to having seen an early pic so now I'm trying to track one down to swap over my 20V blue-badged one.

Here's another pic, from "Le Grandi Automobili" (No. 45, Fall 1993) showing barnacle's "black" airbag steering wheel, but also the 6 bar oil pressure gauge (I think, picture not printed that clearly)

The black embossed airbag steering wheel is also on early 16VTs.

Some May 1994 press photos from Fiat France, showing the B pillar badge and what wenow know is a non-airbag steering wheel (but 3 bar oil pressure gauge)

in all of the non-airbag photos above, where is the horn push?

Entire center part.

What are they?

The 1747 (1.8 Barchetta engine) version with toy 15" wheels AFAIK

Barchetta's seem to be holding their price well. ot

Thanks for the reply. I think I have seen some toy cars sorry, scale models with these wheels, maybe?

And what's wrong with 15" wheels, pray?

When I bought the 16, 195/55R15 were considered low profile, and cost a bloody fortune to replace.

The original steel wheels with hub caps on the 1.8, although they had the same design in alloy.

I know this one is late but, i have a 16vt with no badge on steering wheel, low badge on b pillar but still have a 3 bar opg..
Any knowledge around early cars welcome