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Different tappets #1314195
06/02/2012 16:06
06/02/2012 16:06
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Stichl Offline OP
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Stichl  Offline OP
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Yesterday I realized that there must be two different kinds of tappets for Fiat 20V engines.
Difference is the skirt size (and weight):
Unfortunately I do not know any more which tappets belong to which head (I dumped them into dustbin – there I noticed a difference of the tappets):
I think:
- the lighter tappets with shorter skirt belong to 20V turbo head
- the heavier tappets with longer skirt belong to 20V Stilo / Kappa 2,4l head
Can someone confirm my assumption??
Thank you
Juergen


20VT coupegrale 4x4
Re: Different tappets [Re: Stichl] #1314772
08/02/2012 10:04
08/02/2012 10:04

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Hi Stichl,

Yes, the 2.4 hydraulic button is smaller and lighter.
I've converted over to solid now.

Re: Different tappets [Re: Stichl] #1314824
08/02/2012 13:31
08/02/2012 13:31
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Stichl Offline OP
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Hi Barbz,

Thank your for your advice. Sounds very good - had thoughts about this, too. Only problem is the adjustment. What solid lifter did you use?! Only ones, I found, were metal housings, which had to be filled up with shims from below.
Means first you have to fill up the lifter with shims, afterwards you have to mount them incl. the cams.
If tolerance is not ok, you have to demount both, lifter and cams.
A lot of work - are your solid tappets the same, aren't they?
Second problem are the cams themselves - you will need new ones, because the hydraulic lifter cams have no adequate chamfer to deal with solid tappets for a longer time :-(
Do you use new cams as well or do you try it with the old ones? CB would deliver new cams for solid lifters.
I did without solid lifters - I went another way. Hartmut Lohman showed me a cylinder head for hydraulic lifters from Ferrari, good for 9500revs. Only difference to Fiat head was the oil bore - the oil bore from Ferrari head was more oval to "have more time" to deliver the lifter with oil. I hope, you understand, what I am meaning.
My solution: we ported all oil bores within the Fiat head to this ovality to allow the lifters to get more oil...
I hope this helps to arrive to my goal of 8000rpm...
More revs are almost senseless - piston speed gets too high because of the long hub of 2,4l.
2l can do much more than 8000, but our 2,4l?!
Ciao
Juergen


20VT coupegrale 4x4

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