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Re: Rollcage Fitting #132298
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sunvisors is a well known problem... Had to live without them when I fitted a cage in my Seat Ibiza (god that was 20yrs ago...)

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Well another week off work to carry on with yet more work on the coupe, so first things first, getting rid of the gaps on the mounting plates, this was simple enough as i ground all the welded nuts on the plate and decided that the rollcage is going to be welded in and not bolted now

Better Gap 1
Better Gap 2

Also a good time to clean up the rear by painting it, so there is same colour throughout the car, rather than patchy yellow / black / grey.. also bearing in mind this is only the first coat

Rear Shelf Before
Rear Shelf Afterwards
Back Bench Before
Back Bench After


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Re: Rollcage Fitting #132300
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You should make a web page (if you find the time ) with all these updates together Begbie.

Did you have an initial post with your plans for this project. I see roll cage and ditching seats, are you going to race it?


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Trappy, i'd already thought of that, could keep everything together, as well as hosting video's and stuff that no doubt i will be making etc.. maybe one day in the near future i can do so, but not for the time being

Anyway more pics today, painting and removing more sound deading, fun! Neighbour popped around and is going to do the welding for me, will be done in stages, some thu eve, then fri eve then sat when im not going to be about, gulp!

How i took delivery of the cage last year
Front Half Today
Closer shot of front half
Joining Tubes
Rear Half
Rear Half again
Rear Cross Section
Both Halves Together Finished

Passenger Footwell (not finished)
Drivers Footwell
Lack of Sound Deadening



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Re: Rollcage Fitting #132302
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DANG!! How much are you expecting it to weigh when you've finished mate? 1100 ish kg?

Oh and I hope that fly in the 3rd pic isn't a permanent feature now its dried .

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still cant get that gear knob off

Re: Rollcage Fitting #132304
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Civic, no idea on the finished weight, as long as its 1200kg or lighter, im happy, but the fly isn't a permanent feature, although a couple of greenfly's (but black) have made there way onto the cage.

Joel, no need to take the gear knob off, it's easy to do with the momo ones, unscrew the bottom and remove the grub screw, job done

Nothing to really say apart from the floors are now clear of the residue from the sound deading and the plates have now been welded in place, tomorrow, the cage goes in and becomes a permanent feature

Cleanier Floors
Welded Plate 1
Welded Plate 2


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Re: Rollcage Fitting #132305
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Well the rollcage is in and 8 of the 10 fixing points have been done! 4 have been welded and 4 have been bolted, the other 2 need to be welded tomorrow along with the door bars.

Painted and In!
Welded to plate 1
Welded to plate 2
Roof bolted
B Pillar bolted

Now the next problem that has been discovered is the doors require a fair bit of force to shut them. The passenger side isnt too bad, just a slightly hard push to get it to close properly, but the drivers side, oh dear, let's just say the door card is going to need to be trimmed / cut / butchered to clear the B pillar bar, which is also resulting in the door being pushed out slightly at the bottom.

Bar touching door card
Door pushed out


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interesting job begbie that must have taken some serious designing and time,that welding looks a bit rough like, bet its solid now though?

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er beggars, you got a grinder? tidy up those welds.

Dump the door cards and put a sheet of carbon look sheet in place, with a cut out for the handle, and a webbing loop for a close handle.

I think I see the difference, but perhaps not worth the cost tho eh beggars
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Re: Rollcage Fitting #132308
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Quote:

interesting job begbie that must have taken some serious designing and time,that welding looks a bit rough like, bet its solid now though?




No designing on my behalf, bought the cage from Demon Thieve's who ordered it from OMP.

As for the welding? Who cares, a neighbour is doing me a favor and reasonably cheap. As for carbon door cards, yeah alright


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Whats the position with weld in and bolt in roll cages and the MOT.Is it legal and MOT Legal to have one in the car?

Here in Ireland its not allowed to have a weld in roll cage in the car.It will fail the NCT (National Car Test).

We just about get passed with a bolt in half cage over here/

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Re: Rollcage Fitting #132310
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Over here its ok, Even the WRC have Mot's as some events consist of public roads.

Re: Rollcage Fitting #132311
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carbon look you fool!! much cheaper

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Re: Rollcage Fitting #132312
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very nice.

it'll be interesting to see how the handling of the car
changes with this amount of stiffening.

cheers.

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3 months on and a bit of time off work over the festive period has got me back outside to actually put the dashboard back into the coupe and clear the spare room out of the centre console etc..

Now i knew that the dashboard would have to be cut up a bit, but not quite to the extent i have gone. There is about 2.5" off the top / side of the dash to get it to slide past the front A bars, then the small heater vents for the windows needed to be chopped, the centre air vent which does the front window and side vents needs a bit of trimming (because the angle of the dashboard when going back in is different, things haven't gone back the same way it came out) and had to do a bit of trimming on the crossmember.

Drivers Side
Passenger Side
View from the front window
Cross member modified
Drivers side dash
Upside down dashboard
Centre vent trimmed
Window heater trimmed

So still a bit of work to do, i need to put the brackets that hold the dash to the cross member back on (these had to be removed and chopped up) to allow fitting, then put everything back on the dash, centre console, carpet (front only) then i might be near finishing the interior


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Re: Rollcage Fitting #132314
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Just out of interest - why are you bothering to put the whole dash back in?

Have you crossed the point where you wonder whether it has been worth the effort?

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Am i not allowed to still have a glove box, a normal-ish dash, heater controls and stereo?


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Nice work Beggars, good to see it coming along now.

You could have cut your dash a bit straighter, but never mind.

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Nice work Begbie ! Look forward to seeing it in the flesh at a track sometime next year .

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Quote:

Nice work Begbie ! Look forward to seeing it in the flesh at a track sometime next year .

Phil




next year you surely mean 2008!

God, Mr. Begbie speed up a bit, have you started puting the engine together yet?

V.

Re: Rollcage Fitting #132320
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Looking fairly tidy beggars, not as texas chainsaw massacre as i'd thought.

rich

Re: Rollcage Fitting #132321
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Seems almost a waste to spend all that time, money and effort to then blow it up a week after getting it back on the road

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And a couple more, just trail fit of the seat and 3" 4 point harnesses :

Offside
Nearside


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Door bars are painted and now fitted, doorcards chopped up slightly, the centre light pod is now in at the top (albeit needed trimming due to it fouling on the bar running along the roof) rear view mirror is in but had to make an extension bracket, no idea what im going to do about the sunvisors, oh well \:\)

Drivers door
Passenger door
Passenger side again
Butchered door card
Butchered door card 2


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butchered indeed \:\(
I'd personally bend the crossmember ever so slightly to avoid all this butchering around the speaker grille

When is the engine getting in there then?

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Re: Rollcage Fitting [Re: Begbie] #341602
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 Originally Posted By: Begbie
no idea what im going to do about the sunvisors, oh well \:\)



After a quick search I came up with a few solutions

Option 1
Option 2 (and these are more your style)

Re: Rollcage Fitting [Re: Jimbo] #341620
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comeon Jimbo, lets face it you don't need sunvisors up there, you don't have enough of the basic ingredient-the sun \:P

Serious, Bebgie most of the race prepared cars I've seen didn't have visors. Which is indeed a problem in your case with the sun running low for long periods of time...

V.

Last edited by Vas; 23/04/2007 13:07. Reason: I'd go for #2 anytime :D
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looks good, minimal cutting really.

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