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583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster #1324218
11/03/2012 22:26
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It all started several months back when i was at Fleas and Barbz showed up.
He threw the keys to his 2.4 monster at me and i took it for a spin.
I was so impressed with this that not only did i consider doing the same myself but we spoke about a way of further improving such a tried and tested engine.

Yes the stories are true,during the winter months namely December i cut my holidays short and decided that i would make a few days to tidy things up under the bonnet.

During that time i also decided to nip down to London and pick up a never before tried engine.
Whilst we had a nice cup of lemonade in Castle de Barbz he told me what he had done and how he had built it and all his secrets with the head and bottom end.

These were as follows :-

(Classified Classified Classified Classified)


3 weeks later LE119 emerges from the workshops with the first 2.5 20vt in Britain.

Running in the engine went very well and it was clear it was difficult to hold back the power.

I then decided to strengthen the gearbox.
Namely a differential i had designed and built.
This was no easy task fitting as there was lots of issues i ran into but nevertheless its now in and working well.

Off to Flea for some mapping on what is currently a breakthrough in the coupe for the highest yet spec engine from Barbz,.

I will let him report on how he found the car but lets just say he called Barbz and said he was worried about my safety as im apparently a lunatic .

Drove the car today in anger for the first time at 1.5 bar and my word it is blisteringly quick.

The difference between 2.0 and the 2.4/5 is night and day.

The off boost torque is similar to driving a V6 off boost and even on the motorway at 1200 rpm theres no need to shift out of 6th gear.
The progression from off boost torque to power and boost is very linear and smooth whilst giving you one hell of a kick in the seat.

115 bhp per cylinder,very drivable and great on fuel.

The car is so quick that your almost waiting for the gearbox or driveshafts to let go.

My old setup was quick,but this is beyond dangerous even giving me the shakes in a straight line
The most unbelievable thing is that the power is tractable after 1st gear.

The fueling leaned off at higher boost with the intank pump so Flea fitted a inline pump as well but unfortunately we didnt get chance to sling it on the rollers for some ''Pub figures'' as he calls them.

This now is the end of the line for me,tuning goes no further for this car other than little tweaks here and there.
The setup is brilliant,thanks again to Barbz for all the help on the phone and for getting hold of alot of parts i needed for the conversion.
The quality of the service he provides and the time he gives you is second to non.
Nothings too much trouble,and he makes sure you get exactly what you ask for and more. thumb

Also to Flea for the mapping,and Crazylegs for the help all those nights spannering,even if you did drop my front bumper on the floor scratching the new paint. rolleyes

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324223
11/03/2012 22:35
11/03/2012 22:35
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Guessing on 98ron fuel? Well done just dont crash it.
Look forward to seeing this overtaking the lambos at spa

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Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324227
11/03/2012 22:35
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Fantastic results John. Also congrats too Barbz and Flea.

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324232
11/03/2012 22:40
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That was you fat head you turned and hit it with your wallet so you are bound to hit it. And it was on the roof of your car on that cloth. Any way its nice to see her all good and after all them hours and blisters do not bend her!!! Am popping over in the week dude as i what a pass ride in her, oh please.

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324234
11/03/2012 22:42
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Nice one John. Took a little longer for the phone call from Flea then laugh


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324235
11/03/2012 22:42
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You got any pics up of your nice new engine bay as it looks so clean and tidy.. tongue

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324236
11/03/2012 22:43
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shocked

Paul, you better get that wedding arranged soon or you'll be looking for a new best man laugh

Great results guys, this is truly astounding and shows that the little old Fiat Coupé is far from being an obsolete piece of junk love

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324240
11/03/2012 22:52
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Yes paul you best as you know that jbt will use all 557bhp as much as possible at spa etc....

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324242
11/03/2012 22:55
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Flea says he can get 600 bhp and 500 ibsft on racefuel map laugh laugh

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324244
11/03/2012 22:58
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laugh might have too get the stag do in before Spa then?

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324247
11/03/2012 23:01
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do it soon as possible realy paul driving

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324272
11/03/2012 23:39
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Just like to say well JBT and well done Barbzs what a car the coupes can be with you chaps ere.

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324274
11/03/2012 23:41
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Sheep get the hell off your iphone and back onto the pc laugh

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324279
11/03/2012 23:45
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Lol i phones are great laugh

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324280
11/03/2012 23:48
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Congrats dude. I've been following this from the beginning and knew it would make some serious power!

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324283
11/03/2012 23:49
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Amazing, this is going to be some mean Coupe - looking forward to seeing her vanish towards the horizon soon !

must be an absolute monster laugh


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Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324292
12/03/2012 00:00
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At the current prices, I'll give you £2k and your bus fare home if you deliver it to me?

Seriously, nice work from all here. Can't wait to see it fly at Spa smile

JBT - Can I join the queue for a drive?!?!

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324294
12/03/2012 00:23
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Congrats! laugh

Just proves again that the 5 cyl platform is one of the best engines around. cool

It'll be nice to get some feedback at 1.8bar. wink.

Well done Flea.

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324310
12/03/2012 06:43
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Ah, finally all done then!
Nice results and great work everyone!


Now in the 400+ bhp club!
Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: technics] #1324313
12/03/2012 07:33
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Well done all - let's not see any gearbox cogs outside East Midlands Airport this Saturday.... wink

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324381
12/03/2012 12:24
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Yonkers. Another mental coupe smile

Well done to Flea, Barbz and JBT

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324404
12/03/2012 13:45
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Well done JBT & Barbz!!
and not forgetting Flea! smile

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324405
12/03/2012 13:48
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Good grief - 550+ bhp shocked - must be truly mental on the road, but at the same time it will be easy to drive at 5/10 with the extra capacity

All we need now is to resolve a decent 4WD solution and we'll have a car that's almost unbeatable in just about any circumstances.

Will be interesting to see how it performs at Curborough in June

Well done for persevering with it - when my finances are a little more stable, I might come and talk to you....


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Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324413
12/03/2012 13:54
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Great to see people still pushing the boundaries with the Coupe. Excellent results and congratuations to all involved smile

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324463
12/03/2012 17:33
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question remains.

Where do we go next with the coupe?

2L engines seem to be at the limit and going further than ever before..

Now the 2.4L engines are going EVEN further than people expected.

JohnS made 616bhp on pump fuel...

how long (if we keep going this way) will it be till we see the 1st 600bhp 20vt on pump fuel??

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324468
12/03/2012 18:13
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Great work, looking forward to seeing this at Spa.

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324469
12/03/2012 18:14
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JohnS was 616 on race fuel Marco smile


Originally Posted by Jonny - After being taken out at Spa
Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: Nigel] #1324522
12/03/2012 20:56
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Originally Posted By: Nigel
Good grief - 550+ bhp shocked - must be truly mental on the road, like the driver!! wink

All we need now is to resolve a decent 4WD solution and we'll have a car that's almost unbeatable in just about any circumstances.


John, what is happening with the 4WD??

Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: ] #1324532
12/03/2012 21:18
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Well there is no stopping John, he wanted 500 horses and now we find that a further 83 have bolted from the stable and tucked themselves into his five pot monster! Yes, 500 + 83 equals 583bhp, that was the result from today's dyno session up John's way (just to reiterate, this was not on my dyno!). I think he put a few Porsche noses out of joint, nobody else was even close to the 583bhp & 492lbs/ft @ 1.9bar, all on Tesco fuel smile

It's a truly crazy ride, enough to get the adrenaline coursing through my veins for a good few hours. He's been hankering after the top spot for a while, but I duly crown JBT as having the most powerful and fastest Coupe in this land!


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Re: 583bhp & 492lbs/ft 2.5 20vt monster [Re: Flea] #1324555
12/03/2012 22:43
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Will get it down to you after Spa to see how it does on your rollers.

Was speaking to Barbz today and hes come up with a way to beat the 600bhp laugh On tesco fuel.
this was at 1.95 bar btw ooo

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