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Standard pads and Spa #1333174
09/04/2012 10:48
09/04/2012 10:48
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Hi all,

Just wandering if anyone has done Spa before with the standard brake pads and how they faired. I've just had all the brake fluid changed but the pads are fairly new so I didn't get them changed but was wandering if this was wise.

I did a track day at Donnington in my old coupe which had 3G discs and yellow stuff pads and the brakes did a great job of shedding the speed and I was impressed with them, but on road I didn't like them so much. They were no good from cold and I didn't like the feel.

So is it worth me changing the pads for something more track orientated? Will I get lots of fade? Opinions much appreciated.

Stu



Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333243
09/04/2012 16:35
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Change them.
Spa is a 5th/6th gear 3x a lap circuit.And one of the big straights leads onto a near hairpin.

Its not so much them being stock its the heat they generate.

Too much heat means the fluid will boil.
Believe me that isnt nice and gives you no warning.

Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333350
09/04/2012 23:10
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Change your fluid to at least 5.1


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Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: MarioCirillo] #1333362
09/04/2012 23:28
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Originally Posted by MarioCirillo
Change your fluid to at least 5.1


"At least" 5.1?

I've being using Castrol SRF, which is classified as Super Dot 4, the main difference between this and normal Dot 4 is the dry boiling point, which is around 320C compared to 260C degrees.

Definitely change pads. Standard dot 4 so long as it's reasonably fresh should suffice.


Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333363
09/04/2012 23:32
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I meant a better fluid in general so my comment of at least 5.1 isnt totally correct

Standard dot 4 so long as it's reasonably fresh should suffice

I wouldnt take the risk...
For the sake of a few quid extra and using a better/higher boiling point fluid



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Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: MarioCirillo] #1333366
09/04/2012 23:46
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Castrol SRF is about the very best stuff you can get cool


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Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333378
10/04/2012 00:23
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Is it racing fluid? If yes, would you have to change it quite regularly?

I think this is what was put in my car recently...


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Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333381
10/04/2012 00:29
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Ive been of halfords dot 5.1..no fade at all at spa.Think it was just under a tenner for a litre.



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Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333383
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The one thing I changed on my car before I went to Spa last year was the pads. Went from standard (that aren't bad, but you WILL get fading on Spa, definitely, and lousy pedal feel with it, and maybe visit the grass or gravel) to race pads and it's the best mod I ever did.


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Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333393
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I used yellow stuff pads last year and they worked a treat


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Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: MarioCirillo] #1333406
10/04/2012 08:45
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Originally Posted by MarioCirillo
I used yellow stuff pads last year and they worked a treat


But how were the indicators? laugh

Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333414
10/04/2012 09:55
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Really good mate laugh


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Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: Kayjey] #1333508
10/04/2012 17:02
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Originally Posted by Kayjey
The one thing I changed on my car before I went to Spa last year was the pads. Went from standard (that aren't bad, but you WILL get fading on Spa, definitely, and lousy pedal feel with it, and maybe visit the grass or gravel) to race pads and it's the best mod I ever did.


What pads did you use Kayjey?
and the shop a couple of doors along from mine has these http://www.taste-deli-cafe.co.uk/images/stories/whisky1.jpg

@£95 I can bring you one to Spa yum

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Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333544
10/04/2012 18:20
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I use standard discs, pagid yellows and castrol SRF. The car stops well from high speed with no fade.



Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333597
10/04/2012 21:36
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Cheers for the info guys. Barbz changed the fluid for me, not quite sure what he put in but I asked for stuff for the track. I guess I should bite the bullet and swap the pads as well. So what do people recommend? They have to be good from cold, not squeal like a bitch, be decent on track and not break the bank. Would ds2500's be a good choice?

Stu


Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: stuart81] #1333604
10/04/2012 21:54
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DS2500's are very good pads.

Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: ] #1333945
12/04/2012 00:03
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Originally Posted by Lego
What pads did you use Kayjey?
and the shop a couple of doors along from mine has these http://www.taste-deli-cafe.co.uk/images/stories/whisky1.jpg

@£95 I can bring you one to Spa yum


Pagid R29.

St. Magdalene... doh! Can't afford it though at the moment. Just went through two months of unemployment and massive taxes and I need some time to reCouperate. Has it been finished or is it a pure St. Magdalene?


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Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: Kayjey] #1334042
12/04/2012 12:51
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Originally Posted by Kayjey

Pagid R29.

St. Magdalene... doh! Can't afford it though at the moment. Just went through two months of unemployment and massive taxes and I need some time to reCouperate. Has it been finished or is it a pure St. Magdalene?


? Sorry Kajey I know nothing about whiskey.

For Me Whiskey = laugh blabla then grr furious rage banghead curse argue finishing with punch

So I avoid it. wink

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Originally Posted by Lego
For Me Whiskey = laugh blabla then grr furious rage banghead curse argue finishing with punch

So I avoid it. wink


laugh

Whiskey for me = crazy furious hurl

Re: Standard pads and Spa [Re: ] #1334072
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hehe


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