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Another scary moment, wheel came off
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10/04/2012 17:37
10/04/2012 17:37
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Well, took the Coop down to Matty at Wallace Performance Aberdeen for a health check. Set off at 6am to beat the traffic. Drat I can hear grinding, stopped three times to check, nothing obvious. Halfway there the bloody front passenger wheel comes off. Holy shoot I say out loud. Thought the Coop was a goner but managed to pull in a farm entrance.
Now the fun begins, trying to get the tools out of the boot. I have a sub box in there, (not any more). Pissing with rain Half an hour later the wheel was back on. The ratchet wasn't working properly either. Lucky I had spare bolts.
Great service from Wallace by the way. Back home two hundred & odd miles later....Seems like it was a dream, the adrenalin kept me going I think. My confidence is well shot at the moment.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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10/04/2012 18:18
10/04/2012 18:18
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gargoil
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I had this happen on my first Coupe about 30-40mph; amazingly no damage apart from one sheared wheel bolt. Mine was passenger wheel as well. A careful drilling out and a helicoil later car was good to go. A scarey experience and something I have been paranoid about ever since...
Reading through other posts on the forum it seems worryingly an all to common occurrence on these cars...
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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10/04/2012 18:54
10/04/2012 18:54
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It's all down to the hubs which are made out of chocolate and the threads strip too easily. For a near as dammit 160MPH car, it's not good enough. No I don't agree Matt, it is more down to poor maintainence practices with people overtightening wheel bolts.
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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10/04/2012 19:07
10/04/2012 19:07
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crazylegs
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Like mario at donnington very very lucky.
I think most of it is down to loose wheel bolts.
Am just double checking mine now lol.
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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10/04/2012 19:26
10/04/2012 19:26
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It's all down to the hubs which are made out of chocolate and the threads strip too easily. For a near as dammit 160MPH car, it's not good enough. No I don't agree Matt, it is more down to poor maintainence practices with people overtightening wheel bolts. Actually I've done a bit of digging & indeed the over tightening of said bolts can lead to this. My wife who is an avid reader has read about this over tightening as well. Mmmm food for thought. Just for the record I was doing about 50mph slowing down all the time. First thoughts was a bearing.
Last edited by jimboy; 10/04/2012 19:29.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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10/04/2012 19:53
10/04/2012 19:53
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h2ypr
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I had this happen as well.
Was going round a corner when it happened. Passenger wheel went about 250yds into a field. Lol.
I needed to replace my hub flange and my wheel bolts.
Made me feel safe driving the car knowing it had been done.
Ross
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
[Re: jimboy]
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10/04/2012 21:48
10/04/2012 21:48
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MarioCirillo
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As you know it happend to me at donnington  Not a nice thing  Replace all your bolts with brand new ones from fiat. For the sake of £45/50 its worth it
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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11/04/2012 02:13
11/04/2012 02:13
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As you know it happend to me at donnington  Not a nice thing  Replace all your bolts with brand new ones from fiat. For the sake of £45/50 its worth it Not much point though, if the threads are already stripped in the hub, as the new bolts will still have nothing to thread into. Sorry to hear what happened jimboy and glad you're ok 
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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#1333690
11/04/2012 07:39
11/04/2012 07:39
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damiengt
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is it the front hub flange that go? or does both the front and rear hub flange go?
just thinking after reading up on this and after spending over £300 on suspension parts it might be worth changing theses as well? at only £25 each flange
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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11/04/2012 09:28
11/04/2012 09:28
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came2dance
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When you've had the wheel of aren't you meant to re-check the bolts after a undred miles or so?
Last edited by came2dance; 11/04/2012 09:28. Reason: h oops dropping my aiches :)
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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11/04/2012 15:32
11/04/2012 15:32
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OK I've a question, I've tried digging but can't find an answer. Can you just change the front hub flange only, or do you need a new bearing as well?
My body & brain both hurt at the moment so can't think properly. Thanks to all that have posted.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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11/04/2012 16:13
11/04/2012 16:13
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came2dance
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I wonder if it would be possible to develop some kind of plastic indicator. Perhaps it could be held in place by the wheel bolt. Then it would change it's position should a bolt work loose. I thought of some kind of green circular thingy but it would be difficult to tell it had changed position  oh well back to the drawing board
Last edited by came2dance; 11/04/2012 16:14. Reason: Don't know about the hub flange sorry :)
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
[Re: jimboy]
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11/04/2012 16:14
11/04/2012 16:14
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h2ypr
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OK I've a question, I've tried digging but can't find an answer. Can you just change the front hub flange only, or do you need a new bearing as well?
My body & brain both hurt at the moment so can't think properly. Thanks to all that have posted. You can change the hub flange seperately from the bearing. Ross
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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#1333801
11/04/2012 16:58
11/04/2012 16:58
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Marco20ValveT
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why not just buy a good used hub from Joe (CC)?
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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11/04/2012 17:31
11/04/2012 17:31
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h2ypr
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why not just buy a good used hub from Joe (CC)? I would reckon postage plus the part would be £30ish? Pretty sure brand new flange is £40 delivered (ish) and you get ultimate peace of mind!! Ross
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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#1333810
11/04/2012 17:41
11/04/2012 17:41
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Marco20ValveT
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well, its £42ish for a new hub..
its neither here nor there.
then add a bearing onto it and a carrier..
soon adds up!
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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11/04/2012 17:55
11/04/2012 17:55
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Why change the bearing? Ross
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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11/04/2012 17:59
11/04/2012 17:59
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Marco20ValveT
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change every thing. if im correct, the hub face sit into the bearing..
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Re: Another scary moment, wheel came off
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11/04/2012 18:05
11/04/2012 18:05
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It's only the flange threads that were slightly damaged, amazingly nothing else.
I'm an old git & happy with it,most of the time
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