Yep... my GT30/82 died yesterday becasue of bad advice and me not listening to my gut feeling

Long story short...

Oil starvation to the turbo because I fitted a 1mm oil feed reducer

Flea was out checking my fuelling when he lost boost but couldn't find any leaks, I got the call and while I was walking back realised what this issue could be which was then confirmed back at Leighton's, no bearings left in the turbo and massive amounts of lateral movement in the shaft, this unit is propper ****ed!

What am i going to do about Spa......

more to follow, I'm not finished yet and Leighton bless him has pencilled me in for a possible remap next Wednesday, but if all else fails I'll either be in MrsCC's 2.4 or my Plus.

Coupes.... why do we do it

****Addition****

As Rich rightly points out below, this was a journal bearing unit so don't panic if you're running a ball bearing unit with a restrictor, this is correct.

Thanks Rich

Holy s##t sorry to hear that joe!

Joe,

we ahve been over this mate!!

time for bigger and better thigns from the FCSS demo car..

go for a bigger blower or the same and be done with it!!

after all, you not going spa in the Vinci would be like turning upto spa in my mrs GTA...
its just not wrong.

Hopefully the sight of Marco and I holding hands when we arrived in the Figaro cheered you up a little . Or the coffees!

Fingers crossed the Vinci makes her appearance at Spa and you are physically fit enough to enjoy it!!

Bloody hell, Joe...

Just to clarify, after confirmation from Joe, his turbo was a journal bearing turbo, not a roller bearing turbo.

Roller bearing turbos should still have a 1mm restrictor fitted.

(just for piece of mind for anybody with a GT series turbo ie gt28)

Ninja

Gutted for you Joe, but you'll be back better and stronger I'm sure

Oh no !!

Keep taking the pain killers Joe.

See you at Spa,and dont worry i have just the thing to numb
the pain.

I got a new batch of rocket fuel made up,it makes V power look like limeade.

Chin up mate.

Wa-HOOO

Light at the end of the sadly longer tunner perhaps Joe?!

Best thing I've heard all day Joe

Joe please clarify that you fitted a 1mm restrictor to a journal bearing turbo????

Are you aware that restrictors are a recent addition to ball bearing turbos applications only,due to the low oil supply required for operation.



from Garretts website,applies to roller bearing turbos only.

Garrett website

Journal bearing turbos must not ever be fitted with a restricted oil supply.

Oh dear mate. I am sure you will be Spa ready.

Yes I fitted a restrictor to a journal bearing but only... and I stress, because the idiot supplier told me it would be ok as it was originally supplied with the turbo.

My gut feeling said it was wrong but I did it anyway, my error on my car and not a customers, always listen to your gut feelings or just ask Leighton.

Great link btw.

Yes John, I'm sure he knows that now. Lol

Working on it Joe

Sorry to hear what's happened Joe

If i were you i would contact your supplier again without him knowing the issues just to clarify this and record the conversation.
This is negligence on his behalf and i would press for compensation and consider changing suppliers.

The thing that your going to have issues with is the seizure wouldve caused all the fillings to be returned to the sump.
The return side is unrestricted and would allow large particles to travel into the sump.
This will be floating in the oil and potentially already be circulating around the engine.
I would drop the sump and check the big ends and mains.

Dropping the oil will give you a idea as to the extent of the contamination.

But wherever it is ensure its not started.

Bit of a nightmare from the sounds of it.

Yes I know how much work is ahead if I'm going to get this Coupe ready for Spa, Oil has already been emptied and yes there's debris. The sump would of come off anyway after a failure like this, oil cooler and pipes will be sent off for cleaning and we'll see what we find with the shells but I've new in stock if needed.

After an hours phone call with the supplier they're taking no responsibility with the failure and the restrictor, he's still telling me it's OK and something else must have caused it to fail (!)

Upside is... well there isn't one, looks like I'll have to pay full price for another turbo but it won't be from them that's for sure.

Joe, I feel your pain mate good luck. Keep popping them pro plus and I'm sure you'll make it

New turbo ordered.

same as before or something different?

Ninja

we need a jumping for joy smiley..

but i will settle for this

Fitted and mapped in time for Spa?

Damn mate not good! Feel free to put me to good use on Saturday, I'll help any way i can!

Ach Joe you needed this like a hole in the head On the upside at least you know just the guy to sort it

i can read joe's mind from here...

Coffee... 1 sugar...

rolling my fags..

keeping Jake Entertained

hmmmm

Thanks Mart

Happy Birthday btw



Yes same Spec Rich as I was slowly developing better spooling rates with the new 3.5 down pipe and exhaust.
I very nearly went for a GTX series turbo but I've not had any issues with the 30/82, well until my brain dead actions of fitting a restrictor that is



That's the Plan Dan

Breakfast on me Wednesday mate?



I'll jump for joy after I've driven on the train next Friday Marco, there's a long way to go yet

pmsl... you don't know how close you are Marco