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Improving cloudy roof lacquer #1347603
31/05/2012 09:38
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The lacquer on the roof of my scotty is cloudy/patchy. When I first got the car I scratched a bit with my fingernail and it began to peel but I managed to catch it early and sealed it with a lacquer touch up pen.

Is there anything that can be done to improve the appearance? I've seen people removing the lacquer on the roof completely but mine isn't peeling yet.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347622
31/05/2012 10:16
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No, in a word. It will soon all lift and look crap. You can then remove it all and polish the paint underneath, it comes up quite well laugh

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347630
31/05/2012 10:27
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I've had 2 coupes with the same problem. One I left too long and it spread which meant having the whole roof resprayed. Second was caught as soon as it started by respraying a small area, in the end it worked out cheaper to catch it before in spreads.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347651
31/05/2012 11:21
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the whole roof is cloudy.

How much was the respray on the roof Serg and can you see where it blends with the pillars?

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Serg1, it is not a case of peeling laquer. It is that the laquer goes like icing sugar and just crumbles off. It is UV damage that causes this.

It start very oddly too. The pain takes on a matt look and you think it just need a polish, but the matt look comes from deep under the clear coat crazy No amount of polising makes any difference.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347664
31/05/2012 11:52
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Well it's stayed the same for about a year, so I think I've been lucky so far (touch wood) that it hasn't actually peeled.

When it starts though, what sort of price should I be looking at for a roof respray (no sunroof)?

Can anyone recommend someone near Basildon?

Is it possible to just re-do the lacquer or will the colour need respraying as well?

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347666
31/05/2012 11:57
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If the roof is going then the rest of the car will soon follow. My roof went 18months ago and six months ago the bonnet went and then a couple of monthh ago the rear quartes and boot followed.

I suspect it needs a proper rub down then a coat of colour followed by the clearcoat. As the clearcoats must all me removed I don't think you will get away without a colour coat.

Cost = £2k min frown

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347670
31/05/2012 12:24
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and how much should I expect to pay for just the roof?

I don't doubt that the rest will go eventually but there isn't so much as a hint of it anywhere else on the body and the bonnet is a replacement that was apparently resprayed last year.

There is no chance of me spending £2000 on a full respray on this car.


Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347686
31/05/2012 14:06
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I had my roof, bonnet, A & C pillars, front bumper and some scratches down the side of my Coupe resprayed last year.

I got quotes ranging from £450 - £950 for that work to be done. At the time I wanted to spend as little as possible, so after a bit of haggling got the cheapest price down to £400. When you're stood next to it and inspect it closely you can see that in a few areas it's not a totally perfect job, but stand 6 feet away and these imperfections disappear. I was over the moon with the results, especially for the price I paid.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347689
31/05/2012 14:11
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so, probably about £200 for just the roof and pillars then?

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347695
31/05/2012 14:21
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Go to a few local places and get quotes, they will vary. I'd guess anywhere between £200 - £250 for a cheaper job.

My bonnet was the only item taken back to the metal as it had some surface rust + dents on the leading edge.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: Gunzi] #1347742
31/05/2012 17:12
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You do get what you pay for. I had my Scottie resprayed (bonnet, roof and boot lid) for £500, and she was fine... had a FULL glass-out respray on the Moon VT6 for more than £2K and she is love . The Moon is for show and the Scottie for go though.....

You'll need to keep the car for a decade to get your money back, so just do/spend what you feel is appropriate for your own piece of mind.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347765
31/05/2012 18:20
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I got a quote from the guy who did gunzi's for my roof, £150, great price. Seen his car and looks really good, soon as I've got the funds I'm over there.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1347828
31/05/2012 23:03
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I've just been quoted £250 for the roof - lacquer off, paint on paint and re-lacquered, blended in on the C pillars - which I think is reasonable.

I'm not after perfection as the rest of the car isn't perfect. Just presentable. This is never going to be a show car.

I also mentioned that it wont be until after the MOT because I want to make sure funds allow. As he's also doing my MOT perhaps this will make him a little lenient on any borderline failure points laugh



Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1348326
02/06/2012 19:37
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I had roof, bonnet and part of the front bumper done for £500. He took it back to bare metal.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: bockers] #1370489
23/08/2012 15:07
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Originally Posted by bockers
No, in a word. It will soon all lift and look crap. You can then remove it all and polish the paint underneath, it comes up quite well laugh


How do you remove it? My roof is covered in lifting lacquer spots after a period of neglect.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1370491
23/08/2012 15:12
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I've never done this, but I used to have a job in a supermarket and they had the kind of tool I'd think might work for gently easing as much lacquer as you can off the roof to remove price stickers from the merchandise.

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Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1370589
23/08/2012 20:33
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Originally Posted by Mark0904
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No, in a word. It will soon all lift and look crap. You can then remove it all and polish the paint underneath, it comes up quite well laugh


How do you remove it? My roof is covered in lifting lacquer spots after a period of neglect.


Try a blast with a jet wash.


Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1370592
23/08/2012 20:50
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I wouldn't use something with a knife edge, you'd risk cutting into the paint and possibly primer. I used a blunt edged ruler, which worked a treat.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: skinflint] #1370612
23/08/2012 21:50
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Originally Posted by skinflint
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Scotty peeler?

It's as if they somehow knew! shocked


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Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1370641
23/08/2012 22:59
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whilst were on the subject of lacquer peel. My front bumper has a few patches on it,the bonnet has the odd bit (but i need a new bonnet anyhow) rest of the car is ok. A mate suggested strip it to the paint and re-laquer it. Is that possible? How much do you think a garage would cost just to relacquer somethin?

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1370644
23/08/2012 23:07
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Theres not much difference, most of the cost is the prep, if your going to do that you would be foolish not to repaint it.


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Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1370649
23/08/2012 23:16
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right yeah was just wondering. probably cheaper to get a new bumper?

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1370814
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Go to a few local bodyshops and get some quotes to respray those parts, it can cost a lot less than you may think. I had my roof, front bumper and bonnet done at a very reasonable price.

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1370819
24/08/2012 13:35
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I think this may be what i do. How much was a reasonable price?

Re: Improving cloudy roof lacquer [Re: ] #1372498
29/08/2012 16:43
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Originally Posted by MikeRoss
The lacquer on the roof of my scotty is cloudy/patchy. When I first got the car I scratched a bit with my fingernail and it began to peel but I managed to catch it early and sealed it with a lacquer touch up pen.

Is there anything that can be done to improve the appearance? I've seen people removing the lacquer on the roof completely but mine isn't peeling yet.


These guys are very good and well priced!

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