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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
[Re: Countrycruising]
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29/05/2012 13:08
29/05/2012 13:08
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MickeyBravo20v
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im taking note of this thread for when i do an oil change on mine. I dont know what filter is on it at the moment but i have no oil leak *touch wood* thank god,had enough with my bravo leaking oil all over the drive lol 
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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29/05/2012 13:20
29/05/2012 13:20
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I've had that too, but I'd just blamed my own ineptitude. Now I have something else to blame! Hurrah!
1. Think of something witty and urbane 2. Imagine it written here
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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29/05/2012 13:51
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pstruck
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I've also experienced this, although not having had the car long I'm unsure if it's an OEM filter. I guess it is as it was last serviced with you Joe.
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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29/05/2012 14:34
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I've also experienced this, although not having had the car long I'm unsure if it's an OEM filter. I guess it is as it was last serviced with you Joe. If you've not had a oil change yet Pete then yes this will also be an OEM filter.
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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29/05/2012 16:29
29/05/2012 16:29
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Marco20ValveT
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i hd this with Halfords filters, OEM filters..
remember Joe, you found mine was loose before?
dam things..
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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29/05/2012 22:16
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AP1
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I haven't had any issues with genuine 20vt oil filters. Though I remember when I had a Punto GT Fiat changed the filters. The later ones were poor quality, one had swarf on the threads out of the box.
I started using Fram filters on my Punto after this.
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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02/06/2012 00:44
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I have fitted OEM filters for years without an issue.if yours are coming loose then your not tightening them up properly.simples.Fiat even supply the filter clamp to order.
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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02/06/2012 07:42
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I have fitted OEM filters for years without an issue.if yours are coming loose then your not tightening them up properly.simples.Fiat even supply the filter clamp to order. They're being tightened to 14nm with a Fiat Hex filter socket but OEM work loose hence the thread.
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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02/06/2012 11:48
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simonz30
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I had to tighten mine twice last week after an oil change with an oil filter cup it seemed tight when I first did it obviously not though as there was oil dripping off the bottom engine mount.
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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02/06/2012 17:36
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Just managed to put a quarter turn by hand on mine again, gripping it with rubbergloves to give extra purchase. Admittedly I only hand tightened it last time, due to not having a cup wrench or similar.
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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02/06/2012 18:51
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Yep my filter keeps coming loose too Joe! Went under the car last weekend, needed a good half a turn, oil everywhere!
Kinda glad its just the filter and nothing else.
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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03/06/2012 09:47
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I have fitted OEM filters for years without an issue.if yours are coming loose then your not tightening them up properly.simples.Fiat even supply the filter clamp to order. They're being tightened to 14nm with a Fiat Hex filter socket but OEM work loose hence the thread. No they don't work loose hence my reply. 14 nm doesn't apply to these.this is where the issue is If you torque the filters then try them with a ratchet you'll still be able to move it half a turn. As Crude as it sounds it has to be as tight as possible,the only thing you have to be careful of is that you check the oil filter housing bolt when removing the filters. And to let you into a secret that almost everyone else knows.Fiat filters arent built by Fiat ,there manufactured by a well known after market supplier
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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03/06/2012 12:29
03/06/2012 12:29
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I reckon it could be something as simple as the material from which the O ring seal is made, perhaps this has changed for some reason (cost, typically) and the new stuff is not as grippy maybe?
1996 Portofino 20vt & 2000 Pearl White Plus 2008 Ferrari F430 & 2017 Fiat 124 Spider
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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03/06/2012 17:31
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I have fitted OEM filters for years without an issue.if yours are coming loose then your not tightening them up properly.simples.Fiat even supply the filter clamp to order. They're being tightened to 14nm with a Fiat Hex filter socket but OEM work loose hence the thread. No they don't work loose hence my reply. 14 nm doesn't apply to these.this is where the issue is If you torque the filters then try them with a ratchet you'll still be able to move it half a turn. As Crude as it sounds it has to be as tight as possible,the only thing you have to be careful of is that you check the oil filter housing bolt when removing the filters. I've got to agree with JBT on this. I have never torqued an oil filter in the 20 years I've been servicing cars  . I always tighten them up as tight as I can by bare hand and then give them a little nip more with some p40 sandpaper or something for a little more grip and I've never had a problem with a filter loosening off. With my Coupé I've always used either Coopers or Fram oil filters (long and short length) and a cup wrench for slackening off and tightening them. I always check the thread in the housing to see if has slackened off (it's always been fine and never needed tightening) and when fitting the filter I always give it a good nip up with the ratchet and cup wrench,obviously nowhere near straining the threads of the filter but tight enough to satisfy me that it's not going to slacken off. Baz 
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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03/06/2012 17:58
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marky
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had to tighten two filters now one was a champion and the other was a coopers
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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03/06/2012 23:15
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I have fitted OEM filters for years without an issue.if yours are coming loose then your not tightening them up properly.simples.Fiat even supply the filter clamp to order. They're being tightened to 14nm with a Fiat Hex filter socket but OEM work loose hence the thread. No they don't work loose hence my reply. 14 nm doesn't apply to these.this is where the issue is If you torque the filters then try them with a ratchet you'll still be able to move it half a turn. As Crude as it sounds it has to be as tight as possible,the only thing you have to be careful of is that you check the oil filter housing bolt when removing the filters. I've got to agree with JBT on this. I have never torqued an oil filter in the 20 years I've been servicing cars  . I always tighten them up as tight as I can by bare hand and then give them a little nip more with some p40 sandpaper or something for a little more grip and I've never had a problem with a filter loosening off. With my Coupé I've always used either Coopers or Fram oil filters (long and short length) and a cup wrench for slackening off and tightening them. I always check the thread in the housing to see if has slackened off (it's always been fine and never needed tightening) and when fitting the filter I always give it a good nip up with the ratchet and cup wrench,obviously nowhere near straining the threads of the filter but tight enough to satisfy me that it's not going to slacken off. Baz As the above they are all opinions ! If you are having problems with any oil filter !!! Report it here !!
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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#1348676
04/06/2012 12:43
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johnnybravoturbo
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The report is tighten them Properly and they won't leak.simples ..........
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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#1348689
04/06/2012 13:38
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Marco20ValveT
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I remember when I first got my coupe...
The filter was SO tight it was stupid.
It seems we are faced with 2 options.
Over tightened them and not get them off with out a fight
Or
Nip them up and check them
I did another coupe FT tight and it worked loose...
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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04/06/2012 20:57
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AP1
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Who makes the Fiat filters then?
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Re: Loose OEM oil filters.
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05/06/2012 15:50
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The report is tighten them Properly and they won't leak.simples .......... It would seem clear by what you have said previously, which implied that people should tighten them beyond the torque the book reccomends, that your last comment should read..... "tighten them improperly and they won't leak. simples..." .... 
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