Fiat Coupe Forum
- Founded by Kayjey & James Northam
- Funded by the Club for the benefit of all owners
Fiat Coupe Club UK
join the club
Fiat Coupe Forum
 
» Announced
    Posting images


» Related sites
    Main club site
    fiatcoupe.net


» External data
    owners listed
 
Who's Online Now
2 registered members (kjpe, slicer), 124 guests, and 2 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums69
Topics113,609
Posts1,341,222
Members1,802
Most Online731
Jan 14th, 2020
Top Posters(All Time)
barnacle 33,561
stan 32,122
Theresa 23,300
PeteP 21,518
bockers 21,071
JimO 17,917
Nigel 17,367
Edinburgh 16,816
RSS Feeds
Club Events
Club Information
Track Events
Rolling Road/RWYB
Social Events
Non-UK Events
Coupé Related Chat
Coupé Spotting
Coupé News/Press
Buying/Selling Advice
Insuring a Coupé
Basic FAQ's
How to Guides
Forum Issues
Technical Problems
General Maintenance
Styling
Tuning
Handling
ICE and Alarm
Coupés for Sale
Coupés Wanted
Parts for Sale
Parts Wanted
Group Buys
Business Forum
Other Vehicles for Sale/Wanted
Other Items for Sale/Wanted
Haggling/Offers
Ebay links
Other Cars
Other Websites
General Chat
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Can I use Squadra chip from Alfa 155Q4 on my 16vt? #1365446
06/08/2012 01:11
06/08/2012 01:11

D
digitalundgrd
Unregistered
digitalundgrd
Unregistered
D



Hi all,

A friend of mine is selling his Squadra Tuning performance chip for Alfa Romeo 155 Q4 (2.0 16vt). Can I use it on my Fiat Coupe 2.0 16vt or it is different?

Re: Can I use Squadra chip from Alfa 155Q4 on my 16vt? [Re: ] #1365520
06/08/2012 12:08
06/08/2012 12:08
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,580
Melbourne, Australia
Scuderia Offline
My life on the forum
Scuderia  Offline
My life on the forum

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,580
Melbourne, Australia
The ecu and engine is the same but the Coupe has I think 5 different chips just for the immobiliser.

Re: Can I use Squadra chip from Alfa 155Q4 on my 16vt? [Re: ] #1365521
06/08/2012 12:15
06/08/2012 12:15
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,895
New Zealand
Saint Offline
My life on the forum
Saint  Offline
My life on the forum

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,895
New Zealand
Its hard to say which the ECU number it has but I doubt it

A 16vt coupe and a 155 Q4 and the ecu's controller chips are different, I forget the ecu numbers but the coupe is something like 94.05 and the Q4 is 100.04 or similar, if you get the numbers off both chips you should be able to figure it out

As Scuderia says the 16vt has both Immobilser and non immboliser version of 94.04 and 94.05 chips plus another version from memory (93??)

I have Dink chips for both coupe and alfa and he mentioned they were different, how much i dont know



Re: Can I use Squadra chip from Alfa 155Q4 on my 16vt? [Re: ] #1365552
06/08/2012 14:35
06/08/2012 14:35
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,725
London
kj16v Offline
My life on the forum
kj16v  Offline
My life on the forum

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,725
London
I've run (but not actually driven) all the Q4 and 16VT bins (bins = data on the chips) on my 16VT with immobiliser. They all run the engine, but they cause the engine check light to show.

IIRC, the Q4 doesn't have an O2 sensor, but a pot to manually adjust for CO levels. The Coupe, of course, does have an O2 sensor.

Re: Can I use Squadra chip from Alfa 155Q4 on my 16vt? [Re: ] #1365771
07/08/2012 02:28
07/08/2012 02:28
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,580
Melbourne, Australia
Scuderia Offline
My life on the forum
Scuderia  Offline
My life on the forum

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,580
Melbourne, Australia
I would say if that were true it would only be for the earlier ones, pre 1994 in markets that did not require a Cat. In NZ all my Fiat and Lancias pre 1994 were like this. By 1994 everything had a cat even though it was not required by law and we didn't even have min 95 RON unleaded! You had the choice of 91 unleaded or 96 leaded! The filler necks were removed on some cars so owners could run leaded fuel. Better than 91 IMO. My Coupe still has the filler neck in it, yours too Saint? These would have most likley been run on 91 RON unleaded for the first year(s) of their lives.






Last edited by Scuderia; 07/08/2012 02:29.
Re: Can I use Squadra chip from Alfa 155Q4 on my 16vt? [Re: ] #1365795
07/08/2012 09:40
07/08/2012 09:40
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,895
New Zealand
Saint Offline
My life on the forum
Saint  Offline
My life on the forum

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,895
New Zealand
I have both cars, both running the o2 probe and P8 ECU and do not have have a "pot".

click to enlarge

click to enlarge

The coupe chip may run the Q4, I have never tried it, I would suspect dash ECU errors but KJ would be able to advise.

Dink provides (different) chips for both so I have one of each - the Q4 chip number 101.04

If anyone knows if the Q4 ecu is "better" or worse than the coupe ECU I would be interested


Re: Can I use Squadra chip from Alfa 155Q4 on my 16vt? [Re: ] #1365986
08/08/2012 06:04
08/08/2012 06:04
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,580
Melbourne, Australia
Scuderia Offline
My life on the forum
Scuderia  Offline
My life on the forum

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,580
Melbourne, Australia
Very unlikley it will be any better.


Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1
(Release build 20190129)
PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.015s Queries: 14 (0.009s) Memory: 0.7687 MB (Peak: 0.8396 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-05-03 09:11:17 UTC