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Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 10:52
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Is that not the maximum under Swedish law though?
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 10:59
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Madness. Who would let that man out again! He will be 54 when he gets out. I would suggest he will sill be a huge risk to society when he is 54!!
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 11:15
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Correct proccy - thats the maximum sentence they could give unde their current law
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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However, inmates who are considered a threat to society can be held indefinitely. Surely this will be the case.
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 11:28
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Insanity, If thats the case - I hope when he gets out he repeat offends, Then they may realise that the current law outrageous! As deemed sane, He should be sentenced to death for sure. Have a little think about what you've said here, my irony-meter is overloading.
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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Insanity, If thats the case - I hope when he gets out he repeat offends, Then they may realise that the current law outrageous! As deemed sane, He should be sentenced to death for sure. Have a little think about what you've said here, my irony-meter is overloading. My first thought as well. Oh my God I'm turning into J_C.. ![shocked shocked](/forum/images/graemlins/default/shocked.gif)
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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Is that not the maximum under Swedish law though? That may be so Steve, but he has been tried in Norway under Norwegian law where it is the maximum term apparently.
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 11:43
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Insanity, If thats the case - I hope when he gets out he repeat offends, Then they may realise that the current law outrageous! As deemed sane, He should be sentenced to death for sure. Have a little think about what you've said here, my irony-meter is overloading. I get what he means, but I'm not sure Chrissy has fully thought that one through!
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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Is that not the maximum under Swedish law though? That may be so Steve, but he has been tried in Norway under Norwegian law where it is the maximum term apparently. Oh yes, sorry Pete - geography wasn't a strong point ![blush blush](/forum/images/graemlins/default/blush.gif)
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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Insanity, If thats the case - I hope when he gets out he repeat offends, Then they may realise that the current law outrageous! As deemed sane, He should be sentenced to death for sure. Have a little think about what you've said here, my irony-meter is overloading. I get what he means, but I'm not sure Chrissy has fully thought that one through! Thenks Verde - I didnt mean that, At all! I do however find it pure insanity he could be out in still good and able physical health...
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 16:56
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Totally agree. Is will be out at the age of 54!!! Plenty young enough to do the same again!
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 17:06
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for those that apparently missed it However, inmates who are considered a threat to society can be held indefinitely. Surely this will be the case.
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 18:10
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But he won't be released, will he? He will be assessed and (I'm just guessing) found to be just as "sane" as when he went in. In the same way that Ian Brady was never going to be released, nor Peter Sutcliffe, etc. Without betraying a confidence the Peter Sutcliffe part could well be wrong soon.....there are motions at an advanced stage in the quest to free Sutcliffe, even to the point that a nom de plume has already been agreed. With Brievik was there ever a more deserving case of capital punishment?
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 18:40
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a nom de plume has already been agreed. Mange tout, mange tout Cushty ![wink wink](/forum/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 18:59
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Everyone can calm down. 21 years is the maximum sentence that Norwegian law allows to be given at any one time. He will be subject to sentence review , and effectively resentenced as time passes. This guy is never getting out.
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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24/08/2012 19:00
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But he won't be released, will he? He will be assessed and (I'm just guessing) found to be just as "sane" as when he went in. In the same way that Ian Brady was never going to be released, nor Peter Sutcliffe, etc. Without betraying a confidence the Peter Sutcliffe part could well be wrong soon.....there are motions at an advanced stage in the quest to free Sutcliffe, even to the point that a nom de plume has already been agreed. With Brievik was there ever a more deserving case of capital punishment? Well, I bow to your insight, but I'd be astonished if Sutcliffe were released without condition into the community. Mind you, I'm looking forward to reading his stuff...
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
[Re: Azzura]
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24/08/2012 19:12
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Everyone can calm down. 21 years is the maximum sentence that Norwegian law allows to be given at any one time. He will be subject to sentence review , and effectively resentenced as time passes. This guy is never getting out. ... and if he ever does he will last a day! IMO he was not insane, just an extreme racist and no different from the ethnic cleansers in Nazi Germany, former Yugoslavia, Rwanda, Sri Lanka, Syria, Somalia, oh damn it, I'm now getting bored listing them. Breivik will never come out of jail, mainly for HIS health.
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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25/08/2012 09:21
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Because sentencing should be the dispassionate apolitical function of judges who are constrained by the same principles of law as everyone else (principles they try others for for not upholding).
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Re: Breivik ONLY gets 21 years!
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25/08/2012 13:52
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Why do we put people in prison?
What does it achieve to justify the cost?
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