So *that's* why they have rounded corners?

I saw and held an iPhone 5 today, forget the specs, it's beautiful and so light. They have cracked it by making the screen taller, it works so well, the S3 is too big, the iPhone 5 is pocket sized and can be held in one hand. A friend is a developer, for a major software entertainment company and he has had it since it was announced.

I have put my order in for a Black one. I hope no one else buys one, I really do, because before the iPhone, mobiles were horrible and plastic and crap, like the Alfa Romeo 8C, the iPhone 5 is a work of art. Wait until you see one in the flesh, feel how light it is and how the screen is gorgeous. I want it to remain exclusive.

So keep your Androids and your Blackberries or Nokias, me I will be using something that looks amazing and works, with no malware and tightly integrates with my Macs.

Well it comes as a shock to me that you would like the iPhone 5, C_C I look forward to the iPhone 5-and-a-bit/6 discussion sometime next year.

Although I'm not sure I agree with this:

I meant to say, Horrible and Crap. Like the 8C the iPhone5 is a work of art
This explains it far more lucidly that I can http://www.businessinsider.com/gene-munster-on-iphone-5-2012-9
A Rolex in a sea of Timex... Yep!

I am fed up with the change of connectors though, read this for more http://i.imgur.com/U3Jjw.jpg

So the battery is important? It would be nice to be able to change it if it starts to fail. Much like you can with the Samsung

You might have to change the battery with a Samsung, but I have never felt the need with any of my iPhones, and my now rather ancient 3GS is still going strong with my youngest daughter. So thats hardly a problem.

I put my order in for one today. Three prices are the best at the moment, and the carphone warehouse gave me a decent discount to beat the Three price.

It's a phone - get over it

I do love how people level that comment at anything they don't care about or see as pointless as if it some how ends the arguement.

Yawn

Further to my other post, I didn't want to commit to a 2 year contract for the 5 plus the cost of the phone as couldn't see why it would actually be better for me so...have bought a used 32gb 4S and a reasonable 12 month sim free contract

No clue how to use the thing, but they are meant to be easy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...-landmines.html

Well that should come in handy

I'm so very tempted to buy one outright and chuck my sim in it, cut down (again) though and move to giffgaff once my contract ends. I just can't be arsed to be tied down for 2 years at a time if I can afford something I like.
Looking forward to seeing the iOS update first though.

If anyone wants the ios6 update then please inbox me, the Gold Master has been released.

BTW it is not piracy or illegal to distribute this now. http://www.zdnet.com/heres-whats-new-in-the-ios-6-gm-seed-7000004244/
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/09/12/ios-6-gm-released-ahead-of-september-19th-release-date/

As an apple developer, I have access to the download files ios6 works very well indeed, the Gold Master (GM) is the finished release candidate, but we can download it early just to make sure our apps work with it. so if you don't want to wait until September 19th, then inbox me.

BTW Panorama (camera) mode works on the 4S, Siri much improved and Maps is worth download on its own.

I always buy mine outright as they come unlocked.
Have you tried 3? I pay £15 a month for "All I can eat data"( I am averaging 3GB month, no sign of bandwidth being throttled) , 3000 texts and 300 minutes of voice calls.

Does it fix all the other problems, like network dropping, 3G dropping, etc? Generally not being fit to be used as an actual phone?

My iphone 4 has never had a single problem. Best phone I've ever had by a long way.

well as I have never had any of those problems with any of my iPhones, I cant promise, though my HTC and Blackberry have both suffered but I thought that was a Vodafone issue. (Over last 3 years, work have supplied me with 2x android and 1xBlackberry, all on Vodafone)

Saw this today:

Take an Iphone 4 on the street and tell people it's an Iphone 5 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdIWKytq_q4

Here are links to the iOS6 Gold Masters iOS6

They have only gone and blocked a competitors OS, I think they hate innovation. Stopping innovation using threats

Or ...

Apple threaten Polish Deli

I think they fear rashes of bacon.

Can anyone recommend which Network I should get this on?

I'm currently on Tescomobile and haven't had a problem in the 2 years I've been with them, but they're not taking pre-orders yet and say that they won't be until the 21st (when it'll be released).

Three's prices seem to be the best but I'm worried about coverage. I remember when they first came on the scene there were reports about their customers not getting good reception and their 'all you can eat data' will be pretty pointless if I can't access it.

Anyone got any personal experience of them?

One of the main selling points of the 5 is its now 4G. However in the UK the only network which supports 4G is Everything Everywhere (T-Mobile/Orange). And living in Portsmouth you wont get it for another year. (although just to annoy you the scummers get it for xmas this year)

In many ways spending all that money for a '5' and then NOT going with EE, seems kind of pointless. Its like buying a Ferrari and then putting a speed limiting device on it to stop it from going over 40mph.

So unless I go with T-Mobile or Orange I won't be getting 4G at all (even in the cities where it'll be rolled out)?

I did know that 4G wasn't coming to Pompey for a while but to be honest the speed of the internet connection (whilst nice) isn't a huge selling point for me. When I'm in Southsea I'm normally connected to WI-FI and if I'm at work in Petersfield (or any of the surrounding villages) where they've only recently discovered electricity.

What I do need to make sure of is that the coverage for phone calls is good as I use my phone constantly for work. A friend has a 4S on Vodafone and constantly moans about the quality of the reception.

Tesco Mobile is a "virtual network" basically they use O2's network.

I have found that:

O2 great coverage but lots of smart phones so in busy areas reasonably slow download speeds.
Vodafone poor coverage, if you can get a good 3G signal, then great speeds but a big IF you can get a good 3G signal.
3. Good signal, good download speeds, good prices.

But thats me living and working in London/Essex areas

I think if you have a 4G/LTE device of any nature it might make sense to move to EE. To start with there will be very little network contention, meaning that speeds will feel even faster. I will certainly be trying an EE sim in my new iPhone5 just to test 4G, then will get a PAC code and port across if prices are value for money.

So am I right in thinking I won't have access to 4G at all if I go with Three?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/mar/28/4g-broadband-uk-how-fast is worth a read

Lucky they don't work for Samsung then.

This would be Apple who audit their own suppliers and have an INDEPENDENT third party and fair trade routinely investigate suppliers.

Abuses go on by Chinese companies. Apple are the last company that should be being held to task. They are the ONLY company seeking outside help to verify changes and actually auditing their suppliers. But it's fashionable to attack Apple.

Check the recent discoveries against Samsung. Glad they have... Er done nothing about it.