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Re: 2013
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21/12/2012 16:46
21/12/2012 16:46
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Biggenz
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Biggenz
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I have no fear as I know the truth And so do I Johnny boy, so do I... 
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Re: 2013
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21/12/2012 16:58
21/12/2012 16:58
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johnnybravoturbo
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not even F1 engines of 'The Turbo Era' managed the claimed levels per litre and per level of boost.... So what your saying is Fiat/Lancia really pulled it out of the bag when they put together the 5 cylinder engine?! No Barbz did 
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Re: 2013
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21/12/2012 19:49
21/12/2012 19:49
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nyssa7
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did you have any graphs for that nyssa? what are you planning to get out of the 2.4l build aswell Think I posted up http://www.nyssaracing.com/562.jpg originally, the Cyprus engine first map with GT30, but went back a few weeks later with more changes, swirl pot and new pump using the Mitsu Evo one purely as a lifter, and one of the silencers removed so pipe exitted behind driver's door. Mark @ Owen told me that run was 587 but never got round top getting the graph Had enough fun on track for those it went past to fully believe the figures Only really targeting 550 with the 2,4 but to come in lower and with bigger torque spread - but if more comes at sensible boost levels, that's where it will run
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Re: 2013
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22/12/2012 20:46
22/12/2012 20:46
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knight7660
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more graphs the better that way we can all see the results of different specs. ive been looking at most of the big power coupes to work out the next stage il be going for but im missing an important one 
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Re: 2013
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22/12/2012 22:03
22/12/2012 22:03
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johnnybravoturbo
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johnnybravoturbo
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more graphs the better that way we can all see the results of different specs. ive been looking at most of the big power coupes to work out the next stage il be going for but im missing an important one Which cars that
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Re: 2013
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22/12/2012 22:32
22/12/2012 22:32
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Barbz
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Barbz
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but im missing an important one I'll put my latest graphs up shortly then.
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Re: 2013
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22/12/2012 22:39
22/12/2012 22:39
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johnnybravoturbo
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johnnybravoturbo
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Good lad,joes brother Adam does have a point.
Although with what I saw it might knock the odd beek out of joint.
As joes brother Adam rightly points out the spread of power is important. You have nothing to worry about there Barbz .
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Re: 2013
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27/12/2012 20:47
27/12/2012 20:47
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sediciRich
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I hope next year brings a Table of Speediness too. See how many of these pub figures actually make it through the flywheel and on to the road! Bet that'll bring a few surprises Never mind onto the road. A lot of the flywheel figures 'obtained' are very easy to blow out of the water. They require a VE of over 100% (N/A - and never seen on any turbo engine due to the necessary timing of the exhaust cam) - not even F1 engines of 'The Turbo Era' managed the claimed levels per litre and per level of boost.... What does VE have to do with anything on a boosted engine, VE is not the limitation on the output of a boosted engine. But maybe you have a logic to your conclusion, how are you defining VE in this application?
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Re: 2013
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27/12/2012 20:52
27/12/2012 20:52
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I hope next year brings a Table of Speediness too. See how many of these pub figures actually make it through the flywheel and on to the road! Bet that'll bring a few surprises Never mind onto the road. A lot of the flywheel figures 'obtained' are very easy to blow out of the water. They require a VE of over 100% (N/A - and never seen on any turbo engine due to the necessary timing of the exhaust cam) - not even F1 engines of 'The Turbo Era' managed the claimed levels per litre and per level of boost.... What does VE have to do with anything on a boosted engine, VE is not the limitation on the output of a boosted engine. Of course it isn't... what would I know...
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Re: 2013
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27/12/2012 20:59
27/12/2012 20:59
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sediciRich
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sediciRich
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well tell me what you do know instead of taking the hump because where I'm at you are confusing VE on a NA engine with some limitation of excess delta in compressor output to that seen at the valve i.e. meeting the limit of flow on the engine, you'll need to explain more and trust me Im quite capable of understanding someone else's interpretation.
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Re: 2013
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27/12/2012 21:25
27/12/2012 21:25
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knight7660
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but im missing an important one I'll put my latest graphs up shortly then. your 2.4 is the one i always watch out for because i like to see what move you get out of it after each improvement. also it will be good to see the difference in power bands the extra cc brings with barbz's 2.5 build over the 2.4.
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Re: 2013
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27/12/2012 21:57
27/12/2012 21:57
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Biggenz
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Biggenz
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Barbz, I think it's time you spilled the beans... 
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Re: 2013
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27/12/2012 22:29
27/12/2012 22:29
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knight7660
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whats going on with yours biggenz?
any potential buyers or are you going to keep her? (maybe break the 2.0l bhp record some more)
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Re: 2013
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28/12/2012 00:45
28/12/2012 00:45
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Barbz
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whats going on with yours biggenz?
any potential buyers or are you going to keep her? (maybe break the 2.0l bhp record some more) I wish he does keep it.  It only needs 2 performance enhancing products to push it to 600hp comfortably.  Over two years of pushing the tuning boundaries further than ever, we've removed a major weakest link in the chain , so onwards and upwards for the coming year. 
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Re: 2013
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28/12/2012 00:59
28/12/2012 00:59
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johnnybravoturbo
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Well one weakest link in Biggenz's car which is probably the biggest is:- The ladyboy driving it 
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Re: 2013
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28/12/2012 10:47
28/12/2012 10:47
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Biggenz
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whats going on with yours biggenz?
any potential buyers or are you going to keep her? (maybe break the 2.0l bhp record some more) I've taken it off the road but will be driving it again when it gets a bit warmer. I do miss driving it so I'm glad no one's bought it. The only problem is I will probably keep spending money on it which is a bad thing! 
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Re: 2013
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28/12/2012 12:25
28/12/2012 12:25
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Barbz
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Barbz
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The only problem is I will probably keep spending money on it which is a bad thing!
Enjoy it, rather then give your money away to the Banksters. Truly a special coupe. 
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Re: 2013
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28/12/2012 13:55
28/12/2012 13:55
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gscozzari
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Barbz, I think it's time you spilled the beans... I think so to Barbz
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Re: 2013
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28/12/2012 20:19
28/12/2012 20:19
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johnnybravoturbo
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Barbz, I think it's time you spilled the beans... I think so to Barbz Yeah come on Barbz no ones seen your graphs yet even behind closed doors. Maybe your making it up ????  (rumours start that way )
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Re: 2013
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28/12/2012 22:13
28/12/2012 22:13
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Barbz
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Calm down lads!  A very unique platform is being born so needs TLC. Blew my gearbox to bits in two days of getting it back from mapper (thats with boost turned down to 1.6bar). Maybe your making it up ???? Maybe hard working, enthusiastic, but not in the business of fabricating figures my friend. Yeah come on Barbz no ones seen your graphs yet even behind closed doors All will be revealed very soon. 
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Re: 2013
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28/12/2012 22:52
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[quote=Barbz] Blew my gearbox to bits in two days of getting it back from mapper (thats with boost turned down to 1.6bar).  [quote] jeez dude another one! you should change your avatar to "strikes terror in the hearts of gearboxes".......
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Re: 2013
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28/12/2012 23:06
28/12/2012 23:06
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johnnybravoturbo
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Ok I believe you and whatever you do has to work  Won't be long until your new chocolate box goes bang as you couldn't be bothered to fit the terror proof box I spent days building by aaaaaaand with a proper proper sweet spot. You'll love the gearing. Your always changing things Barbz.
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Re: 2013
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28/12/2012 23:51
28/12/2012 23:51
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sparkyman
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sparkyman
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automatic box, Barbz
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Re: 2013
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30/12/2012 15:02
30/12/2012 15:02
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sediciRich
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would never handle the torque.
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Re: 2013
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30/12/2012 23:58
30/12/2012 23:58
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johnnybravoturbo
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johnnybravoturbo
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Be suicidal if you blew up a 7k box.
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Re: 2013
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31/12/2012 08:36
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Biggenz
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Biggenz
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Be suicidal if you blew up a 7k box. You say that, but it's only us coupe owners who think it's expensive when we have to pay a few hundred quid to replace a gearbox. 
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Re: 2013
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31/12/2012 10:29
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johnnybravoturbo
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Be suicidal if you blew up a 7k box. You say that, but it's only us coupe owners who think it's expensive when we have to pay a few hundred quid to replace a gearbox. At 7k they have a point 
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Re: 2013
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31/12/2012 17:50
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nyssa7
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I think enough of us have blown up engines not far short of £7k?
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