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Utopia on C4 last night #1404115 16/01/2013 10:21 16/01/2013 10:21
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty J Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran
Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty	I thought this was a pretty good start as a scene-setter. If you're a conspiracy theorist you should be able to enjoy the dark machinations going on and if you're not, you can be satisfied at the daft things that they believe. Even if they might end up being true. The style is Black Mirrors/Misfits/Being Human modern drama and there are the classic relentless but freaky pursuers doling out nasty violence to those they seek to interrogate. I really liked this as a series opener, and I'm already looking forward to episode 2. Thumbs up from me!

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1404119 16/01/2013 10:25 16/01/2013 10:25
T tim42 Unregistered
tim42 Unregistered T	This sounds well up my street. I will catch up with this

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1404162 16/01/2013 12:06 16/01/2013 12:06
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,079 Chertsey in the Thames bockers Hon Club Member 007
bockers Hon Club Member 007 Forum Fossil Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,079 Chertsey in the Thames	The bit i saw looked like a scene from Saw, not pleasant.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1404171 16/01/2013 12:47 16/01/2013 12:47
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty J Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran
Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty	There was a certain amount of violence involved (something I'm not a fan of out of context or gratuitously), but it was instrumental in setting the level of danger faced by the protagonists, so I think it worked. I wouldn't go to see something like The Saw if you paid me!

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1404175 16/01/2013 12:54 16/01/2013 12:54
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,079 Chertsey in the Thames bockers Hon Club Member 007
bockers Hon Club Member 007 Forum Fossil Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,079 Chertsey in the Thames	I think I turned over at the wrong time, just as someones eyers were being gouged out. I turned back.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1404179 16/01/2013 13:14 16/01/2013 13:14
N Nobby Unregistered
Nobby Unregistered N	I've recorded it, watched the first half hour though and really liked it.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1404193 16/01/2013 13:55 16/01/2013 13:55
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,546 Northumberland A AndrewR I AM a Coop
AndrewR I AM a Coop A Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,546 Northumberland	A really strong opener, I thought; bleak, but also laugh out loud funny. The violence was very hard for television, but I think the knowledge that it was coming (thanks to C4's warning before the start of the programme and after the final commercial break) made the viewer feel wary and unsettled. For me the challenge now is for it to build on that opener, and not become another big oil/pharmaceuticals/government is evil retread. Dear monos, a secret truth.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: AndrewR] #1404202 16/01/2013 14:13 16/01/2013 14:13
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty J Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran
Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty	Originally Posted By: AndrewR A really strong opener, I thought; bleak, but also laugh out loud funny. The violence was very hard for television, but I think the knowledge that it was coming (thanks to C4's warning before the start of the programme and after the final commercial break) made the viewer feel wary and unsettled. For me the challenge now is for it to build on that opener, and not become another big oil/pharmaceuticals/government is evil retread. I agree with all of that. I want weird, funny, quirky and unsettling, not a predictable conspiracy thriller. So far so good!

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1404243 16/01/2013 17:00 16/01/2013 17:00
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,795 In the coupe. magooagain Club Member 259
magooagain Club Member 259 Forum is my life Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,795 In the coupe.	The stagering assasin is a jolly chap. Gill was cringing at a couple of scenes. But we both enjoyed it. Lets hope it lives up to the first episode.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1405137 20/01/2013 14:38 20/01/2013 14:38
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts. H Hyperlink Forum is my life
Hyperlink Forum is my life H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts.	Just watching it now on catchup and would echo the comments above. A good start but will have to see how things progress.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1405146 20/01/2013 15:13 20/01/2013 15:13
N Nobby Unregistered
Nobby Unregistered N	Watched it all yesterday and think it's great. Even the misses liked although she couldn't watch a few gory bits. I love the psycho hitmen/gangsters.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1405815 23/01/2013 12:30 23/01/2013 12:30
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,546 Northumberland A AndrewR I AM a Coop
AndrewR I AM a Coop A Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,546 Northumberland	No comments on episode 2? Personally I thought it was good, and indicates a few twists and turns to come. I love the visuals, the lack of goodies and baddies and the air of menace and I think this is going to turn out to be another C4 classic. Speaking of which, it's good to see Black mirror is returning soon. Dear monos, a secret truth.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1405824 23/01/2013 13:11 23/01/2013 13:11
N Nobby Unregistered
Nobby Unregistered N	Really enjoyed it again. Favourite character is Wilson Wilson. Also glad that Black Mirror is coming back as I missed the first show last time - the one about the PM.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1405840 23/01/2013 13:55 23/01/2013 13:55
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty J Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran
Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty	Didn't see it. Going to watch tomorrow. Typing this with my eyes shut!

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1405842 23/01/2013 13:57 23/01/2013 13:57
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,546 Northumberland A AndrewR I AM a Coop
AndrewR I AM a Coop A Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,546 Northumberland	Nobby, the 1st series of Black Mirror is on 4OD now, so you can catch up with the missed episode. Dear monos, a secret truth.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: AndrewR] #1405844 23/01/2013 14:15 23/01/2013 14:15
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,294 Portsmouth A ali_hire Forum is my life
ali_hire Forum is my life A Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,294 Portsmouth	Originally Posted By: AndrewR Nobby, the 1st series of Black Mirror is on 4OD now, so you can catch up with the missed episode. And I'll second that it's well worth watching. Anyone know if the first episode of Utopia will still be on 4OD? I've missed both now. Click here to donate to Ickle Pickles

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1405846 23/01/2013 14:40 23/01/2013 14:40
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,546 Northumberland A AndrewR I AM a Coop
AndrewR I AM a Coop A Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,546 Northumberland	Yup, still on there. Dear monos, a secret truth.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1405860 23/01/2013 17:02 23/01/2013 17:02
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts. H Hyperlink Forum is my life
Hyperlink Forum is my life H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts.	Reasonable episode excpet the dumb comment about safeties at the beginning.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1407159 29/01/2013 17:02 29/01/2013 17:02
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty J Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran
Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty	I was disappointed by the second episode; maybe because the first was so good. I loathed the way the Jessica Hyde character was stereotypically obtuse, just ordering the other characters around "or you'll die". A bit of informed background to back up her oh-so-smart knowledge would have helped a treat and probably got more co-operation. Then she turns out to be a whizz with combat and weapons (oh really? how surprising) and finally, yup, she's the long-lost daughter of the mysterious main conspiracy leader. All just a bit too convenient and clichéd. I still like the other characters though, especially Becky. Didn't see her phone call at the end coming, either, which was refreshing. Roll on tonight to see which way it goes...

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1407166 29/01/2013 17:28 29/01/2013 17:28
M MrB Unregistered
MrB Unregistered M	Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell I was disappointed by the second episode; maybe because the first was so good. I loathed the way the Jessica Hyde character was stereotypically obtuse, just ordering the other characters around "or you'll die". A bit of informed background to back up her oh-so-smart knowledge would have helped a treat and probably got more co-operation. Then she turns out to be a whizz with combat and weapons (oh really? how surprising) and finally, yup, she's the long-lost daughter of the mysterious main conspiracy leader. All just a bit too convenient and clichéd. I still like the other characters though, especially Becky. Didn't see her phone call at the end coming, either, which was refreshing. Roll on tonight to see which way it goes... Not such a whizz with weapons 'handguns only have safety's on TV' (or words to that effect), err, no dear, virtually all of 'em have safety's in one form or other!!

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: ] #1407177 29/01/2013 17:38 29/01/2013 17:38
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty J Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran
Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty	Originally Posted By: MrB Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell I was disappointed by the second episode; maybe because the first was so good. I loathed the way the Jessica Hyde character was stereotypically obtuse, just ordering the other characters around "or you'll die". A bit of informed background to back up her oh-so-smart knowledge would have helped a treat and probably got more co-operation. Then she turns out to be a whizz with combat and weapons (oh really? how surprising) and finally, yup, she's the long-lost daughter of the mysterious main conspiracy leader. All just a bit too convenient and clichéd. I still like the other characters though, especially Becky. Didn't see her phone call at the end coming, either, which was refreshing. Roll on tonight to see which way it goes... Not such a whizz with weapons 'handguns only have safety's on TV' (or words to that effect), err, no dear, virtually all of 'em have safety's in one form or other!! Well quite, which added to the irritation as she was an ill-informed smart-arse and made the script-writers look silly.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1407200 29/01/2013 18:35 29/01/2013 18:35
T tim42 Unregistered
tim42 Unregistered T	Fiona O'Shaughnessy is hot though.. maybe I just like ladies in tight jeans that fit PROPERLY . Yeah, OK, I'm weird

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1407296 29/01/2013 22:24 29/01/2013 22:24
N Nobby Unregistered
Nobby Unregistered N	Oh is she Irish then? She sometimes had a weird Americanny twang too which annoyed me.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1407340 30/01/2013 00:32 30/01/2013 00:32
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty J Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran
Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty	Tonight's was better.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1407344 30/01/2013 00:46 30/01/2013 00:46
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts. H Hyperlink Forum is my life
Hyperlink Forum is my life H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts.	Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell Originally Posted By: MrB Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell I was disappointed by the second episode; maybe because the first was so good. I loathed the way the Jessica Hyde character was stereotypically obtuse, just ordering the other characters around "or you'll die". A bit of informed background to back up her oh-so-smart knowledge would have helped a treat and probably got more co-operation. Then she turns out to be a whizz with combat and weapons (oh really? how surprising) and finally, yup, she's the long-lost daughter of the mysterious main conspiracy leader. All just a bit too convenient and clichéd. I still like the other characters though, especially Becky. Didn't see her phone call at the end coming, either, which was refreshing. Roll on tonight to see which way it goes... Not such a whizz with weapons 'handguns only have safety's on TV' (or words to that effect), err, no dear, virtually all of 'em have safety's in one form or other!! Well quite, which added to the irritation as she was an ill-informed smart-arse and made the script-writers look silly. Well there are lots of guns without true on/off safety but certainly not all and if they are going to script such a line props department could atleast use a pistol which doesnt have one which is clearly visible. Not seen the new one yet but it is recorded.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1407350 30/01/2013 01:10 30/01/2013 01:10
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,546 Northumberland A AndrewR I AM a Coop
AndrewR I AM a Coop A Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,546 Northumberland	Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell Tonight's was better. Great episode, I thought. It continues to play with the notion of who's a 'goodie' and who's a 'baddie'. I suspect there are going to be a few more twists and turns before this one's done. Dear monos, a secret truth.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1407396 30/01/2013 09:28 30/01/2013 09:28
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty J Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran
Jim_Clennell OP Forum veteran J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,603 Corridor of Uncertainty	Still a few odd production glitches, including another firearm question: Click to reveal.. why no recoil/smoke on the shotgun when Wilson shoots the thug in the church? but I'm starting to develop an inkling about a possible direction we are heading in: Click to reveal.. definition of "dad" in Jessica and the killer's case... I'll definitely watch next week.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Hyperlink] #1407531 30/01/2013 22:01 30/01/2013 22:01
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MrB Unregistered M	Originally Posted By: Hyperlink Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell Originally Posted By: MrB Originally Posted By: Jim_Clennell I was disappointed by the second episode; maybe because the first was so good. I loathed the way the Jessica Hyde character was stereotypically obtuse, just ordering the other characters around "or you'll die". A bit of informed background to back up her oh-so-smart knowledge would have helped a treat and probably got more co-operation. Then she turns out to be a whizz with combat and weapons (oh really? how surprising) and finally, yup, she's the long-lost daughter of the mysterious main conspiracy leader. All just a bit too convenient and clichéd. I still like the other characters though, especially Becky. Didn't see her phone call at the end coming, either, which was refreshing. Roll on tonight to see which way it goes... Not such a whizz with weapons 'handguns only have safety's on TV' (or words to that effect), err, no dear, virtually all of 'em have safety's in one form or other!! Well quite, which added to the irritation as she was an ill-informed smart-arse and made the script-writers look silly. Well there are lots of guns without true on/off safety but certainly not all and if they are going to script such a line props department could atleast use a pistol which doesnt have one which is clearly visible. Not seen the new one yet but it is recorded. That's why I said virtually. Tonights howler? Driving along with 90 degrees of right hand lock on permanently (i'm ignoring the not looking where you are going for extended periods, that's fairly common). Either that car had a serious tracking issue, or they were on the worlds longest bend!! Still, a reasonable story even if it has some dodgy acting. Will keep watching.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1407540 30/01/2013 22:29 30/01/2013 22:29
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts. H Hyperlink Forum is my life
Hyperlink Forum is my life H Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,244 Watford, Herts.	Not disagreeing mate. Just saying if they are going to script someone a line making the look like a smart arse they could atleast make sure the props back it up....any revolver would have done.

Re: Utopia on C4 last night [Re: Jim_Clennell] #1407554 30/01/2013 22:54 30/01/2013 22:54
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MrB Unregistered M	Indeed. Stuff like this bugs me in otherwise decent programmes, spoils the 'illusion' so to speak (like the driving thing last night). Hey ho, s'only telly!!

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