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Gizzmo boost controller #1412282
21/02/2013 23:34
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I have just bought a Gizzmo ms-ibc and it doesn't seem to have very comprehensive installation instructions, like what the big silver button is for crazy . Is there a 'how to' of sorts floating around? (I have tried searching but can't find anything). Oh, and has anyone fitted one in the handbrake console?


Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412288
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i have a Gizzmo ibc and they are very easy to install so if you need ahand then give me a shout and i'll give you a hand mate , here is a manual that may help you out -

http://www.gizzmoelectronics.co.uk/pdf/IBC%20Instruction%20Ver1.06.pdf

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Cheers Iain, going to give it a go tomorrow. I'll give you a call if when i get stuck biglaugh


Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412297
22/02/2013 00:00
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its 2 wires , ignition live and earth , thats it mate .

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412298
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its the setting up that i don't understand laugh

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412299
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Mine has 3 wires and a silver button? crazy


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Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412301
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It says on the box it can run up to 3.5 so i'll just set it to that and keep my fingers crossed hehe


Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412302
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i can't find any with one button ?

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412303
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Originally Posted by jame5
It says on the box it can run up to 3.5 so i'll just set it to that and keep my fingers crossed hehe


lmfao , your have one quick coupe then driving

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412304
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Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412305
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take it out the box and is it this one ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/R33-Skyli...cles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230e0aa12e

black casing with 2 buttons ?

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412306
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its just 2 wires and 2 buttons then laugh

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412319
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Think i need to have a proper read of the instructions, it's got three wires, red, black and blue and a big silver button.
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I had a quick read in the manual and button is for 'scramble mode' i think but i can't see any instructions for installation?


Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412320
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Have alook at that link I sent you and hunt for the right manual for your ibc in downloads .

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412323
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I've got the manual, it's just a bit shit, it has a wiring diagram that doesn't make sense to me.
Manual

15 pages down, clear as mud.


Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412324
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I think i have worked it out, 2 ignition lives and one earth, the blue ignition live has the button in line. It's getting late and my head hurts!


Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412325
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I can't see the advantage of using the scramble button as your going to set the boost to the level you want and there is no reason for you to want more if your set a 1.3bar . I would just set it up using the boost controller and not fit the button but I know you and now you have it you have to fit it laugh just be very careful as the button acts like an overboost , the more you push it the more boost you get !

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412330
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Push the scramble button = blow engine up. laugh

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412359
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laugh

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412374
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the seperate silver button looks to have no relevance to the installation (i think you got a freebe)

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Originally Posted by ninja
the seperate silver button looks to have no relevance to the installation (i think you got a freebe)

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"Supplied with the MS-IBC is a remote loom and button which you
may mount in a convenient position. Via the ‘Input’ menu you can
make this button either fast change the memories or trigger the
multi-scramble™ (refer to ‘Input’ in this glossary)."

It's part of the kit but i'm still not 100% how to wire the thing up or if it's even worth wiring up. Programing looks like a total ball ache, dyslexia isn't helping crazy


Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412433
22/02/2013 17:43
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don't bother with the button James as you don't want to overboost the car unless your set at low boost and did you get a bracket for the ebv this time like mine laugh

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412436
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Easy to set up, once installed do this:

1) Fit Unit as per instructions
2) Start car and allow engine to warm up thoroughly whilst doing the next few steps
3) Press the bottom button on the MSIBC until the no. "1" is shown on the display. It will flash 3 things: "1(The boost level)", "Target Boost(whatever that is)", "0.00(Real time boost level)".
4) Press and hold the top button, go through and select what units you want, what the scramble button is to do, etc according to instructions. Finally end up by setting "Spike Stop" to 0 for the moment. Press and hold both buttons. This will return you to the main screen
5) Press and hold the bottom button until it shows "Open" or "Closed". Put it on closed, then press both buttons together.
6)It will now show a number (The "duty cycle") and "Duty" comes up on the screen. Set this to 10 (the minimum).
7) Press and hold both buttons and it will show a number (The "gain") and "Gain comes up on the screen. Set this to 0 (the minimum).
8) Press and hold both buttons and it will return to the "real time" boost level

9) Drive the car on full throttle in 3rd or 4th gear
10) Pull over to the side of the road in a safe place, then either turn off the ignition then turn it back on again, OR, Press the bottom button until it scrolls through the boost levels and comes back to setting 1. Either way you do this you will be informed what the highest stable boost pressure achieved was by way of the pressure flashing at you on the screen. This is the new "Target" boost. Let us say that this was 12.5psi and you would like to achieve 16psi:

11) Press and hold the bottom button again until the "Duty" comes up again. Increase this by 10. Then press both buttons so it returns to the real time boost screen.
12) Repeat steps 9/10/11 until the boost level you require is achieved. If you get duty cycle over 50 and the boost level is not increasing, then you have either not plugged in the solenoid or you have not plumbed it in correctly! As it gets closer to the level you would like, only increase by small steps of, say, 5 at a time.

13) When you are happy with the pressure, press and hold the bottom button and enter the "Gain" setting menu. Gain is How hard/fast the boost is brought in. It should NEVER be higher than duty cycle. In fact we have found the best setting is below 10. If gain is too high the boost will either overshoot, or the maximum stable (Target) boost will increase every time you drive it!
If boost starts to creep of spikes too much, drop the gain back.
14) You may need to drop the duty setting slightly if the stable boost level ends up being a bit higher than you wanted.

15) Repeat steps 3-14 on boost levels 2 to 6 to achieve the boost levels you require.

16) Try going flat out, quickly changing gear and stabbing the throttle again. If the boost overswings more than you would like, press and hold the top button, scroll through to "Spike Stop" and increase this by 10.
Repeat process until you are happy with lack of spiking.


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Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412437
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Some settings to try

Set Duty to 82
Gain to 8
Closed loop

And try car at full throttle in 3rd. That will probably get you around 1.3 Bar of boost I keep that as Number 6 on the memory

Then select memory number 5
Duty 78
Gain 9
This will give you around 1.24 Bar But slightly quicker respnse

Then select memory number 4
Duty 74
Gain 9

Number 3
Duty 68
Gain 10

Number 2
Duty 62
Gain 10

Number 1
Duty 15
Gain 10

(Thats Garage mode and will stop them ragging your car!) wink Unless they know what a boost controller is and how to change boost levels wink


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Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412439
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Duty= Boost level higher equals more boost until it becomes unstable
Gain = How fast boost comes in Higher makes it quicker/more violent

As a rule don't set gain above 10


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Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412441
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Originally Posted by jame5
Originally Posted by ninja
the seperate silver button looks to have no relevance to the installation (i think you got a freebe)

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"Supplied with the MS-IBC is a remote loom and button which you
may mount in a convenient position. Via the ‘Input’ menu you can
make this button either fast change the memories or trigger the
multi-scramble™ (refer to ‘Input’ in this glossary)."

It's part of the kit but i'm still not 100% how to wire the thing up or if it's even worth wiring up. Programing looks like a total ball ache, dyslexia isn't helping crazy

Jame5 spotted with his boost button
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Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412465
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lmfao laugh

Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: Begbie] #1412626
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Originally Posted by Begbie
Originally Posted by jame5
Originally Posted by ninja
the seperate silver button looks to have no relevance to the installation (i think you got a freebe)

Ninja



"Supplied with the MS-IBC is a remote loom and button which you
may mount in a convenient position. Via the ‘Input’ menu you can
make this button either fast change the memories or trigger the
multi-scramble™ (refer to ‘Input’ in this glossary)."

It's part of the kit but i'm still not 100% how to wire the thing up or if it's even worth wiring up. Programing looks like a total ball ache, dyslexia isn't helping crazy

Jame5 spotted with his boost button
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I was thinking more like this.....
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Re: Gizzmo boost controller [Re: jame5] #1412691
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Originally Posted by jame5

I was thinking more like this.....
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Hilarious!



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