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Solicitor problem (costs) #1413473
28/02/2013 15:20
28/02/2013 15:20
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Hi All,

Just wondering what people thoughts are on this matter..

Recently the better half needed a solicitor so went to a local one that came well recommended. On the initial meeting she told the solic what she needed and that at the moment things were tight so what her budget for this was.

Solic said fair enough, it might cost more but we'll work to that budget and see where we are, reassuring her not to worry.

Cut to yesterday, bill lands on the doorstep for very nearly 3 times that amount.

Now if a client comes to me with a set budget I'll either work out what they can get for that amount or, if it's unrealistic let them know that what they want isn't possible and discuss other options.

We've correspondence with the solicitor discussing budget prior to them starting work.

Any thoughts?


Last edited by coupe_integrale; 28/02/2013 15:21. Reason: removing repetition..

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Re: Solicitor problem (costs) [Re: coupe_integrale] #1413479
28/02/2013 15:41
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If the solicitor said they would work to that budget and did not tell her they would be exceeding it, they have got a problem.

She should look at the client care letter she was sent at the outset and see who she should raise any concerns with (T&Cs must set out a complaints system). Then contact that person on the firm (presumably one of the partners) and explain what was agreed. Stick to your guns and you are likely to find they will agree to reduce their charge to the agreed amount rather than have the hassle of you ramping the complaint up.

They have to give you a realistic estimate at the outset and keep you updated.

Don't be reasonable, be determined that you will only pay what was agreed. That if it was going to cost more that should have been flagged up immediately so an informed decision could be made.

You can ramp it up to the obmudsman etc if need be.


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Re: Solicitor problem (costs) [Re: coupe_integrale] #1413484
28/02/2013 16:21
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Thanks Emjay, really appreciate a professionals opinion on the matter.

I do find it strange that even now they're sending letters asking to confirm information we've already given them and confirmed. Surely this will just be racking up even more avoidable cost. Anyways...

I'll see how we get on and report back when we get some news.

Thanks again,

James


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Re: Solicitor problem (costs) [Re: coupe_integrale] #1413505
28/02/2013 19:28
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This very subject came up this morning on R5 live, Nicky Campbell's show.

The person affected simply refused to pay the inflated fee in spite of repeated letters from the solicitor, who eventually gave up.

You might get it on iPlayer?


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Re: Solicitor problem (costs) [Re: coupe_integrale] #1413525
28/02/2013 20:37
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It depends upon lots of things - such as the value and also whether the firm has a debt collection speciality (like mine does - so it's very little hassle to pursue non-payers). Far better to point out the shortcomings in their estimates and reach agreement than gamble on not being sued. It's less hassle, stands you in much better stead if you need to ramp it up/if you are sued, and from the insider's perspective is more likely to work.


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Re: Solicitor problem (costs) [Re: Edinburgh] #1413545
28/02/2013 22:16
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Originally Posted By: Edinburgh
This very subject came up this morning on R5 live, Nicky Campbell's show.

The person affected simply refused to pay the inflated fee in spite of repeated letters from the solicitor, who eventually gave up.

You might get it on iPlayer?


Heard similar on R4, a woman was charged £4,000 just for photocopying!!!


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Re: Solicitor problem (costs) [Re: coupe_integrale] #1413552
28/02/2013 22:39
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I would recommend asking for a copy of their official complaints policy and then using the procedures detailed, should you not get joy then take complaint to:

http://www.sra.org.uk/consumers/problems/report-solicitor.page

http://www.legalombudsman.org.uk/

I used the SRA once and was very happy with both the service and the outcome.


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Re: Solicitor problem (costs) [Re: Emjay] #1413737
02/03/2013 00:19
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Originally Posted By: Emjay
If the solicitor said they would work to that budget and did not tell her they would be exceeding it, they have got a problem.

She should look at the client care letter she was sent at the outset and see who she should raise any concerns with (T&Cs must set out a complaints system). Then contact that person on the firm (presumably one of the partners) and explain what was agreed. Stick to your guns and you are likely to find they will agree to reduce their charge to the agreed amount rather than have the hassle of you ramping the complaint up.

They have to give you a realistic estimate at the outset and keep you updated.

Don't be reasonable, be determined that you will only pay what was agreed. That if it was going to cost more that should have been flagged up immediately so an informed decision could be made.

You can ramp it up to the obmudsman etc if need be.

Dont hold your breath for the ombudsman . Had dealing with him last year totally useless outcome Certainly was not on my side


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Re: Solicitor problem (costs) [Re: robcoupe20vt] #1413806
02/03/2013 11:14
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Originally Posted By: robcoupe20vt

Dont hold your breath for the ombudsman . Had dealing with him last year totally useless outcome Certainly was not on my side


An ombudsman is by definition NOT going to be "on your side", as they are an independent arbiter wink


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Re: Solicitor problem (costs) [Re: coupe_integrale] #1413812
02/03/2013 12:16
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After my solicitor and barrister dealing with the ombubmans they both came to the conclusion in my case that it was a waste after nearly a year . I know they are suppose to be independent . In my case the first solicitor we empolyed to look after my wifes mothers probate was not up to the job but took the money . Its was a complex case and in the end we went after the first solicitors liability insurance with solicitor number two who was up to the job . It was not the result we were promised by the first soilictor but a result . Never give up .


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Re: Solicitor problem (costs) [Re: robcoupe20vt] #1413865
02/03/2013 17:57
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Looks like the way to go is to ask for a "certificate of remuneration" and if you don't like that then an "order for taxation". A friend told me that they really hate the latter and will normally settle than go through this.

http://www.lawyerlocator.co.uk/lawyer/le...ng-your-lawyer/

http://www.lawsoc-ni.org/making-a-complaint/6-about-your-solicitors-bill/

Note this is a time-bound process so need to move quick


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