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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
[Re: Jim_Clennell]
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15/03/2013 21:03
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dlongstaff
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You can view it live on naughty sites.
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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15/03/2013 23:49
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Not only are they only showing the highlights, they're showing them while I'm flying back from Brazil and they don't seem to be repeating them either... Don't complain.
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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16/03/2013 08:25
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A few thrills and spills though. A right old lottery. Should be dry for the race tomorrow. I'm tucked up in bed with a nice cup of coffee listening to 5Live Sports Extra 
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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16/03/2013 08:51
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Qualifying now put off until tomorrow morning... 
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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16/03/2013 16:20
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Aaarrgghhh bloody sky, bloody BBC stupid rain. Etc.. Loved watching the little bit I saw, dancing in the rain. Alonso will be on fire, vet's will be chilled as ever and I can see Lewis loosing his rag, by mid season he'll be ANGRY. Frustrated and fighting with Massa again. Can't wait!!!
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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16/03/2013 17:57
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I'm ok, littlest is up at 530 every day so not much that I miss early on, although quail at 11.45 is looking like hard work!!
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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16/03/2013 19:24
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I'm ok, littlest is up at 530 every day so not much that I miss early on, although quail at 11.45 is looking like hard work!! Straight after Match of the Day.... 
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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16/03/2013 20:20
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Can't believe I regard 7.30 as a decent lie-in either. There's a 7:30...in the MORNING??
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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16/03/2013 20:28
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Can't believe I regard 7.30 as a decent lie-in either. There's a 7:30...in the MORNING??  Need an alarm? 
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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17/03/2013 02:19
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Can't believe I regard 7.30 as a decent lie-in either. There's a 7:30...in the MORNING??  Need an alarm?  I'm this far committed that I'll probably just stay up now. Oh, Vettel on pole. That's refreshing. 
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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17/03/2013 02:57
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SPOILER ALERT!! Just got in from a party. Have the qualifying recorded. As the wife is asleep. Thought I would watch it with the sub titles. I guess who ever is typing them is Not an F1 fan. At the end of quaily they put up. Vettel and 'whether' on the front row ??? Don't you just love em Ps. It made me giggle to see that alonso totally ignored massa at the weigh... Don't know why
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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17/03/2013 10:45
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Well done Kimi!! A very well run race by Lotus. What happened to Webber at the start? I imagine that Lewis will be quite pleased with his race. The McLarens??? 
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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17/03/2013 19:29
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It goes against the grain but I might even call Virgin tomorrow and subscribe to as little as I need to to get live coverage! Bear in mind that Sky F1 through Virgin is not in HD, if that bothers you... Great race and a cool victory for Kimi. I was fearing Red Bull domination but thankfully they had issues of their own. McLaren will be blowing the dust off and rolling out their 2012 car in China then? 
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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17/03/2013 19:45
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Quite annoyed by the result, as I'd put a tenner each way on Grosjean and it's Kimi in the other Lotus who does the business.
The tyre degradation of the Lotus was generally acknowledged to be the best of all of the cars in pre-season testing. Grosjean did a race simulation at Barcelona, where the Lotus' tyre drop off was being measured in hundreths per lap, where others were losing tenths. The drop off of the Mclaren was around 0.25s per lap in comparison!
Looking at the Lotus, it seems to be very compliant and ride very soft and it's aero characteristics seem very benign to the soft set-up, while still producing high downforce without the normal pitch sensitivity which a soft set-up is prone to induce.
One thing I picked up on (and Ben Edwards also mentioned in passing), is that the floors of both Lotus' were still striking the ground at the end of the race, where fuel loads would have been at their lowest. It could just have been normal, with the cars being set to run on the bump stops in this way. But, it's worth noting that the Enstone factory has a history of inventing innovative suspension systems (mass dampers, brake-linked front ride height control), so it's not beyond the realms of possibilty that they're running some kind of legal passive ride height control system. The high speed Sepang circuit next week usually demands a stiffer set-up, so it will be interesting to see how Lotus go there.
The race pace of Mclaren in pre-season was thought to be weak and this was born out today. They have balance issues and too much tyre deg. Since 2010, the Mclarens have had to run very stiff in order for their aero to work, but I think their change to a front pullrod suspension system has exacerbated this characteristic, leading to the ride issues they're having. The pullrod system has CoG and aero advantages, but it limits the geometry available. Mclarens problems won't be an easy fix, so I wouldn't even be surprised if the team take an updated version of last years MP4-27 to the rest of the early flyaway races, while they work on solving the issues of the MP4-28 back at base in readiness for the start of the euro season. Some of the issues Mclaren are experiencing are similer to last years front suspension pullrod Ferrari. Although I think their issues were mainly rear aero related.
The Mclaren had showed real flashes of pace in pre-season, but it's pace over a stint is poor. This shows that it's performance is very peaky with a very narrow optimum operating window.
The Red Bulls look to still have the most overall downforce of anything else out there, but the fragility of the tyres doesn't allow them to use it in a race situation. At the start, Vettel went off like a bat out of hell like he usually does from pole, which would normally allow him to break out of DRS range and control the race from there. But, the new spec of Pirelli tyres hate being hammered early in a stint and make you pay for it later on, which is why the Ferraris were able to reel him back in. The newly restricted use of DRS in qualifying is also hurting Red Bull, as their double DRS gave them a big advantage and allowed them to run more rear wing.
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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17/03/2013 20:23
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Must have been running a barn door of a rear wing. The Mercedes is regarded as having the best top end of all the engines.
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Re: The Official 2013 Australian F1 GP thread
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17/03/2013 20:49
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Barn door spoiler may also explain poor tyre life for the Merc, saying that Hammy loves to slide and that doesn't live in modern F1. Nice to see well have a 4 way battle for title with 2 Ferraris a lotus and a redbull. Sorry Webber fans but I just don't think he has that last 0.5% to pull off a driver's championship win.
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