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w215 lbb #1410974 14/02/2013 19:24 14/02/2013 19:24
F frankm5 Unregistered
frankm5 Unregistered F	anybody know anything about this one on gumtree. looks just the one for me

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1410991 14/02/2013 20:45 14/02/2013 20:45
N nismo Unregistered
nismo Unregistered N	Got a link to it ?

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1410994 14/02/2013 20:53 14/02/2013 20:53
T tommyskins1 Unregistered
tommyskins1 Unregistered T	Think this is the one- http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/fiat-coupe-20v-turbo-limited-edition/1009651872

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1410998 14/02/2013 21:20 14/02/2013 21:20
P proccy Unregistered
proccy Unregistered P	Does look nice that

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1410999 14/02/2013 21:26 14/02/2013 21:26
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,091 Leicestershire Joe78 I need some sleep
Joe78 I need some sleep Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,091 Leicestershire	Very nice.

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1411000 14/02/2013 21:26 14/02/2013 21:26
M Muzzynumber2 Unregistered
Muzzynumber2 Unregistered M	In deed

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1411004 14/02/2013 21:56 14/02/2013 21:56
A aarongs Unregistered
aarongs Unregistered A	Looks mint

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1411008 14/02/2013 22:07 14/02/2013 22:07
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 820 Trowbridge,Wiltshire jon13 Enjoying the ride
jon13 Enjoying the ride Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 820 Trowbridge,Wiltshire	Plus isn't it?Not LE.... Anywho it looks great.Wish I had the money to find one like that...

Re: w215 lbb [Re: jon13] #1411017 14/02/2013 23:02 14/02/2013 23:02
S Steamer Unregistered
Steamer Unregistered S	Yum yum

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1411020 14/02/2013 23:12 14/02/2013 23:12
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,486 London Tan technics I need some sleep
technics I need some sleep Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3,486 London Tan	Does look nice, but no mention of MOTs, service history or belts. Now in the 400+ bhp club!

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1411042 15/02/2013 04:57 15/02/2013 04:57
P porkypaul Unregistered
porkypaul Unregistered P	Very nice.

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1411064 15/02/2013 10:27 15/02/2013 10:27
G GrahamL Unregistered
GrahamL Unregistered G	It's not sold yet, but they took a deposit on it within 10 mins of listing it on Gumtree. It's HPI clear btw (just 2 number plate changes), I checked it yesterday afternoon and was considering going to view it myself.

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1411084 15/02/2013 12:16 15/02/2013 12:16
F frankm5 Unregistered
frankm5 Unregistered F	might have gone myself but it's 4.5 hours from me. they're now saying price is estimate and its tbc on their website. buyer might have to fork out a bit more :-)

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1411134 15/02/2013 17:20 15/02/2013 17:20
P Pigman Unregistered
Pigman Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: frankm5 might have gone myself but it's 4.5 hours from me. they're now saying price is estimate and its tbc on their website. buyer might have to fork out a bit more :-) In other words, they got more interest than they expected and the price is going up.

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1411146 15/02/2013 18:10 15/02/2013 18:10
P Pigman Unregistered
Pigman Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: Pigman Originally Posted By: frankm5 might have gone myself but it's 4.5 hours from me. they're now saying price is estimate and its tbc on their website. buyer might have to fork out a bit more :-) In other words, they got more interest than they expected and the price is going up. And now it's gone from Gumtree.

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417021 20/03/2013 23:37 20/03/2013 23:37
Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 12 Wicklow T tobster Newbie
tobster Newbie T Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 12 Wicklow	Got this one after a lot of looking. Some lovely coupes for sale but this is the colour and spec I was looking for so sorry to all the people I contacted and hopefully not waste to much of there time. Car is totally genuine and standard , really nice! Replaced discs and pads and exhaust manifold last week ,thermostat and slave cylinder to do and then belts and she will be good. Thanks to the club for all the help and info I'll post some pics soon

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417042 21/03/2013 09:26 21/03/2013 09:26
W Westie1 Unregistered
Westie1 Unregistered W	I apologise for putting a damper on this post but I was actually the lady who put the deposit down on this coupe when it had just been advertised on Gumtree. I had been searching for my very first coupe for some time when this came up for sale. It ticked all the boxes for me and after thorough discussions with Ian and Harry, the sales representatives from Lyles of Newcastle, we agreed a price and I paid a deposit on the car. As I understand it, a deposit forms a contractual agreement however the next day I received a call to say that the car was being withdrawn from sale. I was told by Lyles that the car belonged to John Macdonald of Macdonald Racing and even though he had also been involved in the discussions and had agreed to sell the car to me I was no longer able to buy it. Whatever happened within the 24 hours after I paid my deposit I have no idea but the whole thing and the way they went about it was very underhand. I really wasn't expecting that this would be my first post on the forum as I was planning to sign up as a member and introduce myself once I had bought my first coupe. I hope that will happen sometime in the near future.

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417052 21/03/2013 10:14 21/03/2013 10:14
T tim42 Unregistered
tim42 Unregistered T	Oh dear. That sounds very unprofessional and you must be totally fed up! Keep the faith, and unlike U2 you will soon find what you are looking for . Good luck!

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417054 21/03/2013 10:17 21/03/2013 10:17
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 16,784 Auld Reekie Edinburgh Club President, member225
Edinburgh Club President, member225 Forum veteran Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 16,784 Auld Reekie	Originally Posted By: Westie1 I apologise for putting a damper on this post but I was actually the lady who put the deposit down on this coupe when it had just been advertised on Gumtree. I had been searching for my very first coupe for some time when this came up for sale. It ticked all the boxes for me and after thorough discussions with Ian and Harry, the sales representatives from Lyles of Newcastle, we agreed a price and I paid a deposit on the car. As I understand it, a deposit forms a contractual agreement however the next day I received a call to say that the car was being withdrawn from sale. I was told by Lyles that the car belonged to John Macdonald of Macdonald Racing and even though he had also been involved in the discussions and had agreed to sell the car to me I was no longer able to buy it. Whatever happened within the 24 hours after I paid my deposit I have no idea but the whole thing and the way they went about it was very underhand. I really wasn't expecting that this would be my first post on the forum as I was planning to sign up as a member and introduce myself once I had bought my first coupe. I hope that will happen sometime in the near future. That is disappointing to say the least and you would be forgiven for suspecting shady dealing. Although you haven't stated as such I'm assuming you got your deposit back. It would be interesting to hear what Emjay has to say on the subject. Meanwhile in spite of the circumstances congratulations on your first post and welcome to the forum where I hope you'll find a degree of transparency and technical expertise, not to mention some -ness, which is to your satisfaction BumbleBee carer

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417060 21/03/2013 11:05 21/03/2013 11:05
G GrahamL Unregistered
GrahamL Unregistered G	Originally Posted By: Westie1 we agreed a price and I paid a deposit on the car. As I understand it, a deposit forms a contractual agreement however the next day I received a call to say that the car was being withdrawn from sale. Does seem a bit off, what they actually said to me in email was: "Within 10 minutes of listing the car I received a call and we have taken a holding deposit, which I might add is subject to viewing as the lady is in Cheshire and will not be able to view until next week once any preparation work is completed."

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417061 21/03/2013 11:06 21/03/2013 11:06
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 8,410 Lightwater, Surrey DaveG Club Treasurer Member 311
DaveG Club Treasurer Member 311 Je suis un Coupé Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 8,410 Lightwater, Surrey	Yes, welcome, and good luck searching for your first Coupe. But I don't understand Ed's last sentence "not to mention some -ness", seems he forgot to mention it 1996 Portofino 20vt & 2000 Pearl White Plus 1985½ & 2016 2017 Fiat 124 Spider + XF Sportbrake

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417071 21/03/2013 11:51 21/03/2013 11:51
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,731 Surrey E Emjay Forum is my life
Emjay Forum is my life E Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 6,731 Surrey	Westie1, Welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear of your experience. You must get your deposit back and you are entitled to any costs flowing from their breach. So if you make a second wasted trip up there, you can claim the cost of that. In theory there is the chance to argue they should "perfect" the contract, ie. carry it through - but as the car has been sold on no court is going to do that. If you can find an equivalent car and buy it, you can also claim for the difference in cost. Finding an equivalent car is not easy though - there will always be argument as mileage, condition etc will differ. Very poor show by the sellers. Personally I would just put this down to one of those bad experiences that happen rather than argue about few quid beyond the deposit. Hope you find an even better example soon Does our law condemn a man without first hearing him to find out what he has been doing? (John 7:51)

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417084 21/03/2013 12:38 21/03/2013 12:38
W Westie1 Unregistered
Westie1 Unregistered W	Thanks very much for all the replies and the warm welcome. It is one of those experiences that leaves a very bad taste in your mouth and I was bitterly disappointed. A price was agreed at the time the deposit was taken, by all parties, to include work that was going to be carried out on the car. I did think of taking it further Emjay, but going down the court route for something I feel should be a very pleasurable experience would have just ruined it for me. The deposit was returned to me once I had to accept the explanation that the car was withdrawn from sale. Onwards and upwards as they say though and I do hope I will be posting some pictures on here of my first coupe sometime soon.

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417085 21/03/2013 12:38 21/03/2013 12:38
Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 12 Wicklow T tobster Newbie
tobster Newbie T Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 12 Wicklow	Sorry about this as it is a bad start for me also as i am new to the fourm also but certainly no shady dealings on my side. I saw the car on gumtree and spoke to lyles I bought the car on the phone payed and collected the next day.Seemed to be straightforward to me. I did not realise I had upset someone else with this purchase. This reflects very badly on me now and apologise to Westie 1

Re: w215 lbb [Re: DaveG] #1417106 21/03/2013 14:24 21/03/2013 14:24
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 16,784 Auld Reekie Edinburgh Club President, member225
Edinburgh Club President, member225 Forum veteran Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 16,784 Auld Reekie	Originally Posted By: DaveG Yes, welcome, and good luck searching for your first Coupe. But I don't understand Ed's last sentence "not to mention some -ness", seems he forgot to mention it There's a smiley inserted before it BumbleBee carer

Re: w215 lbb [Re: Edinburgh] #1417113 21/03/2013 14:46 21/03/2013 14:46
S Steamer Unregistered
Steamer Unregistered S	I think all fair minded people will realise that the shadyness involved in this case is wholly on the part of the Dealer , and can only assume they recieved a better offer after they accepted your deposit Westie1! Im sure you will get over the bad taste left by this and get yourself a nice coupe,to make up for it. Tobster good luck with the car ,a warm welcome to you both.

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417136 21/03/2013 16:16 21/03/2013 16:16
W Westie1 Unregistered
Westie1 Unregistered W	Thanks to everyone for the nice replies and warm welcome. It is one of those situations unfortunately that leaves you with a very bad taste in your mouth and I was bitterly disappointed. A price had been agreed, by all parties, when I left my deposit which was to include some work that was required on the car. I did think of taking it further Emjay but the thought of going down the court route for something which is supposed to be a very pleasurable experience would have just ruined it for me. I did receive my deposit back once I had to accept the explanation that the car had been withdrawn from sale. Anyway, onwards and upwards as they say and I hope to join you again once I've found myself another nice coupe that's right for me.

Re: w215 lbb [Re: tobster] #1417139 21/03/2013 16:30 21/03/2013 16:30
P Pigman Unregistered
Pigman Unregistered P	Originally Posted By: tobster Sorry about this as it is a bad start for me also as i am new to the fourm also but certainly no shady dealings on my side. I saw the car on gumtree and spoke to lyles I bought the car on the phone payed and collected the next day.Seemed to be straightforward to me. I did not realise I had upset someone else with this purchase. This reflects very badly on me now and apologise to Westie 1 Hi tobster and welcome to FCCUK. Let's assume that as you say, you are completely innocent in this matter. If so, the dealer is wholly to blame for their alleged breach of contract with Westie 1. The best way that you can help now, is to be upfront about when you contacted the dealer, (time and date) and the final price that you agreed with them. By checking Westie 1's offer price, together with date and time that deposit was paid, it should be possible to show that the dealer accepted her offer, thus forming a binding contract, then had a better offer from you and backed out of their initial contract, so as to get a better deal, allegedly. This will not affect you, as you have paid for the car and now own it, but it may help Westie 1 to get proper recompense, possibly via the courts, from the dealer, if found guilty. In addition, it will out the dealer concerned for the scumbags that they appear to be. Hope you can do this, not only for Westie 1, but for all to see what has happened. Sorry that you've walked into a storm and hope you enjoy your Coupe. Last edited by Pigman; 21/03/2013 17:15.

Re: w215 lbb [Re: tobster] #1417141 21/03/2013 16:42 21/03/2013 16:42
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 17,203 FCSS 01684 593187 Countrycruising Club Rep Europe, member 914
Countrycruising Club Rep Europe, member 914 Forum veteran Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 17,203 FCSS 01684 593187	Originally Posted By: Westie1 I apologise for putting a damper on this post but I was actually the lady who put the deposit down on this coupe when it had just been advertised on Gumtree. I had been searching for my very first coupe for some time when this came up for sale. It ticked all the boxes for me and after thorough discussions with Ian and Harry, the sales representatives from Lyles of Newcastle, we agreed a price and I paid a deposit on the car. As I understand it, a deposit forms a contractual agreement however the next day I received a call to say that the car was being withdrawn from sale. I was told by Lyles that the car belonged to John Macdonald of Macdonald Racing and even though he had also been involved in the discussions and had agreed to sell the car to me I was no longer able to buy it. Whatever happened within the 24 hours after I paid my deposit I have no idea but the whole thing and the way they went about it was very underhand. I really wasn't expecting that this would be my first post on the forum as I was planning to sign up as a member and introduce myself once I had bought my first coupe. I hope that will happen sometime in the near future. Jen keep the faith, the right one is out there Originally Posted By: tobster Sorry about this as it is a bad start for me also as i am new to the fourm also but certainly no shady dealings on my side. I saw the car on gumtree and spoke to lyles I bought the car on the phone payed and collected the next day.Seemed to be straightforward to me. I did not realise I had upset someone else with this purchase. This reflects very badly on me now and apologise to Westie 1 Welcome to the forum and Coupe ownership tobster I'm gutted about the way this was dealt with, the dealer lied, simple. www.facebook.com/fiatcoupes

Re: w215 lbb [Re: ] #1417143 21/03/2013 16:44 21/03/2013 16:44
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,012 ation szkom Club member 2000
szkom Club member 2000 Forum is my life Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,012 ation	"we" don't need to see anything. We've heard about some suspect dealings. If the parties want to discuss via pm I'm sure they will. IMO that sort of discussion in an open forum is bad form at best. Tobster, westie, welcome to both of you. I'm sure you'll find the forum a really useful place.

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