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Re: AFR gauge - wiring
[Re: JLow75]
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06/05/2013 16:36
06/05/2013 16:36
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group5lancia
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Mmm looks like it is the right wire then (black) and my ground is straight off the battery, looks like a duff gauge then The link above says that the signal wire from the lambda sensor is purple - not black. Black is the earth wire. Do you have a wideband lambda sensor, or a narrow band lambda sensor? I suspect only the standard narrow band sensor, as the voltage swings from about 0.04 volts/0.5 volts/0.94 volts over a range of something like to 13.8 AFR/14.5 AFR/15.2 AFR. So, I suspect your gauge is working as it was designed to, but the voltage it is seeing prevents it displaying the useful detailed information you would like to see. If you read the link, it also states: "At idle or partial throttle the gauge shows fuelling flicking between lean and slightly rich every second or so, showing that the lambda sensor is doing it's job correctly. At wide open throttle it shows slightly rich, again as expected. The gauge does tend to flash a lot, which is kinda distracting, so the position hidden"
Last edited by group5lancia; 06/05/2013 20:59.
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Re: AFR gauge - wiring
[Re: JLow75]
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06/05/2013 16:47
06/05/2013 16:47
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GrahamL
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The purple signal wire was on the specific gauge itself, not the ECU/lambda sensor side... the sensor wire is the black wire under the bonnet.
It may just be that the AFR gauge isn't compatible with the coupe's lambda output (I wasn't aware that different sensors had different voltage outputs but apparently they do). The first type of AFR gauge I got didn't show reasonable values at all, but the one shown in the fitting guide worked fine.
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Re: AFR gauge - wiring
[Re: JLow75]
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07/05/2013 09:48
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That's probably the case then - not compatible, was only a cheap one anyway, not sure what band the lambda sensor is The car uses a narrow band  I paid almost £140 for an AEM Uego (wideband) one year ago.
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Re: AFR gauge - wiring
[Re: JLow75]
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07/05/2013 21:49
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This was only about £20 lol, just a 'tester' but all the wiring & pod is fitted now now so easy to change it. Ill post in the wanted section, don't want to spend much though, ill certainly never pay £120 for a single gauge  lol
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Re: AFR gauge - wiring
[Re: JLow75]
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07/05/2013 22:01
07/05/2013 22:01
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This was only about £20 lol, just a 'tester' but all the wiring & pod is fitted now now so easy to change it. Ill post in the wanted section, don't want to spend much though, ill certainly never pay £120 for a single gauge  lol I think that price includes both gauge and a wideband Lambda sensor?
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Re: AFR gauge - wiring
[Re: JLow75]
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07/05/2013 22:37
07/05/2013 22:37
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GrahamL
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It just 'fluctuates' continuously between lean & half way, goes to rich under a acceleration. That may be working OK, although I'd expect it to continually bounce between lean and rich at idle. If it maintains rich under acceleration it's probably working OK.
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Re: AFR gauge - wiring
[Re: JLow75]
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07/05/2013 23:36
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GrahamL
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The autometer one I had in my old coupe was accurate enough (on the standard narrow band lambda sensor) to show the difference in fuelling between different chips at full throttle, so although it may not be absolutely accurate it's fine for showing relative changes which is still very useful for keeping an eye on things.
Compare it to the "narrow band" oil pressure gauge (which only shows upto 3 bar, while the oil pressure can go much higher than that)... it's still very useful in diagnosing problems.
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