Price for belts and clutch on 20vt?

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Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? #1455715 28/10/2013 18:08 28/10/2013 18:08
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum
Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs	As title really. I'm looking at a car with a slipping clutch and the belts are due as well. Whats the going rate for the work and should I get the waterpump done as well?

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455720 28/10/2013 18:29 28/10/2013 18:29
P proccy Unregistered
proccy Unregistered P	Belts c£500 or more, always get the water pump done because if you don't and it starts leaking, as my yellow one did, you have to do the belts again.....

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455724 28/10/2013 18:43 28/10/2013 18:43
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,783 In the coupe. magooagain Club Member 259
magooagain Club Member 259 Forum is my life Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,783 In the coupe.	You have to be looking at about £900 or £1,000 for those two jobs. Supply and fixed by a specialist.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: magooagain] #1455778 28/10/2013 22:44 28/10/2013 22:44
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum
Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs	Originally Posted By: magooagain You have to be looking at about £900 or £1,000 for those two jobs. Supply and fixed by a specialist. Ouch. Thats more than I expected tbh!

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455781 28/10/2013 22:52 28/10/2013 22:52
P philbass Unregistered
philbass Unregistered P	Yep £835 is the cheapest I've seen so far for belts, pump and clutch.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455784 28/10/2013 23:02 28/10/2013 23:02
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum
Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs	The belts I might attempt myself but not the clutch. Time for some more reading up!

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455793 29/10/2013 01:06 29/10/2013 01:06
P philbass Unregistered
philbass Unregistered P	Good plan.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455819 29/10/2013 09:38 29/10/2013 09:38
D DanDan Unregistered
DanDan Unregistered D	To be fair after an £835 spend that's 2 big jobs out of the way. I'm guessing the car is going cheaper as it needs these doing?

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455837 29/10/2013 11:31 29/10/2013 11:31
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum
Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs	I think I could get it for £750!

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455841 29/10/2013 12:32 29/10/2013 12:32
D DanDan Unregistered
DanDan Unregistered D	So for £1600 you could have a 20vt with fresh belts and a clutch. As long as the car is OK in all other areas it would be a good buy You could buy a £1600 coupe that still might need these in the next year or so.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455855 29/10/2013 13:57 29/10/2013 13:57
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,632 Northern Ireland D daithi28 My life on the forum
daithi28 My life on the forum D Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,632 Northern Ireland	I'd also recommend getting the cam sensor replaced at the same time as the belts.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455864 29/10/2013 14:47 29/10/2013 14:47
P philbass Unregistered
philbass Unregistered P	The list is growing. Still, I'd rather run a 20VT than a twin spark GTV any day! (or an RX8 for that matter :D)

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455866 29/10/2013 15:00 29/10/2013 15:00
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum
Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs	It's running over 300 ponies Dan so the clutch is giving in I think, but it has a noisy waterpump so I will need to do belts anyway. The body seems pretty straight and the interior is good too. I'm hoping to get more than 13 mpg out of a 20v Phil! Is the cam sensor a pig to get at then daithi?

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455907 29/10/2013 18:46 29/10/2013 18:46
P proccy Unregistered
proccy Unregistered P	Cam sensor is best done when changing the belts, otherwise the belts have to come off anyway to get at it, i believe

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455911 29/10/2013 18:54 29/10/2013 18:54
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,012 ation szkom Club member 2000
szkom Club member 2000 Forum is my life Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,012 ation	And you need to take the exhaust pulley off. Carefully too otherwise you damage the sensor pick up.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1455950 29/10/2013 22:00 29/10/2013 22:00
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum
Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs	sounds nasty! Could be worth doing then.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1456076 30/10/2013 19:56 30/10/2013 19:56
J johnnybravoturbo Unregistered
johnnybravoturbo Unregistered J	Despite the forum technical page grumbles its rare for a phase sensor or pump to cause issues. So save £200 and stick with the belts and clutch which will set you back £700 all inc.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: ] #1456091 30/10/2013 21:36 30/10/2013 21:36
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,252 Windsor/ Reading knight7660 Competition Level
knight7660 Competition Level Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,252 Windsor/ Reading	Originally Posted By: proccy Cam sensor is best done when changing the belts, otherwise the belts have to come off anyway to get at it, i believe il second that. i know a few people that didnt then regretted it with in the same year LE53 (452BHp & 389ftlb's with Quaife) Wine red VIS FOOFY Audi RS4 B7

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: ] #1456117 30/10/2013 23:20 30/10/2013 23:20
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum
Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs	Originally Posted By: johnnybravoturbo Despite the forum technical page grumbles its rare for a phase sensor or pump to cause issues. So save £200 and stick with the belts and clutch which will set you back £700 all inc. Thats a good price but the seller is saying the waterpump is grumbling so it would make sense to change it at the same time? Last edited by Dazvr6; 30/10/2013 23:20.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1456135 31/10/2013 08:41 31/10/2013 08:41
J johnnybravoturbo Unregistered
johnnybravoturbo Unregistered J	More than likely the aux tensioners or the timing idler that's causing the noise. I've only ever done a handful of pumps for leaking in 15 years and do maybe 2 phase sensors a year and see on average 200 coupes per year. I would certainly put more emphasis on the auxiliary side as that's a known failure .

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1456296 01/11/2013 11:00 01/11/2013 11:00
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum
Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs	Would a standard clutch be ok for a 300+bhp car?

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1456324 01/11/2013 16:52 01/11/2013 16:52
S suba Unregistered
suba Unregistered S	depends on the turbo / power delivery, and how much over 300 bhp! Alfa GTA clutch is a straight fit, and holds a little more than stock 20VT clutch, will be ok for 300bhp as long as you dont launch the c*ap out of the car all the time, and the turbo spool is not very 'thumpy'. Anything more than this level and the clutch cost jumps quote a bit.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1456330 01/11/2013 17:25 01/11/2013 17:25
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum
Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs	Looks like it's sold but he reckoned it was over 320. GT28, front mount, full stainless, induction kit and live map.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: ] #1456351 01/11/2013 19:08 01/11/2013 19:08
J johnnybravoturbo Unregistered
johnnybravoturbo Unregistered J	Originally Posted By: suba depends on the turbo / power delivery, and how much over 300 bhp! Alfa GTA clutch is a straight fit, and holds a little more than stock 20VT clutch, will be ok for 300bhp as long as you dont launch the c*ap out of the car all the time, and the turbo spool is not very 'thumpy'. Anything more than this level and the clutch cost jumps quote a bit. Valeo stock clutch will be fine with 300bhp Disregard my prices as I'm solid till may next year but might be worth contacting Motormech to see if they can compete with prices and availability. Again the Alfa Gta clutch is a downgrade not an upgrade. Doesn't have the clamping force the coupe clutch does,and has been discussed many a time.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: ] #1456445 02/11/2013 14:14 02/11/2013 14:14
S suba Unregistered
suba Unregistered S	I'm so out of date.... . I guess my GTA clutch did have a heavier cover on it back when I had a coupe though.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1456500 02/11/2013 20:02 02/11/2013 20:02
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 64 Scotland and North East Englan... Dill Reaping the fruits
Dill Reaping the fruits Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 64 Scotland and North East Englan...	Go with everything that john says I say! He did mine earlier in the year before really sorting the car out in the summer...transformation. I'd better book mine in for next year's work planned soon then JC!!;-)

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1457051 06/11/2013 11:02 06/11/2013 11:02
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum
Dazvr6 OP My job on the forum Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,290 Staffs	^^ I will definitely listen to any advice from JC and the other respected members on here as I know very little about the coupe! I've got my eye on one though so watch this space.

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1465464 27/12/2013 16:35 27/12/2013 16:35
K karsten Unregistered
karsten Unregistered K	can you fit that clutch on 20vt? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALFA-ROMEO-156...=item5d46d9080f

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1465526 28/12/2013 09:40 28/12/2013 09:40
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,783 In the coupe. magooagain Club Member 259
magooagain Club Member 259 Forum is my life Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,783 In the coupe.	I have one for sale. You have a private message from me

Re: Price for belts and clutch on 20vt? [Re: Dazvr6] #1467431 09/01/2014 12:05 09/01/2014 12:05
N NormalBloke Unregistered
NormalBloke Unregistered N	JBT did my belts and clutch for well under a grand. I'd recommend him if you're close by (Staffs is close enough I'd think?)

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