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Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? #1469401
19/01/2014 20:35
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The coupe is a classic in the making. But, what do we all think are the cars to buy now for investment purposes?

What's going to make money over the next 10 years - your opinions are needed!!

Maximum budget to spend on one now is £5000.00…….so nothing to be discussed costing more than this to purchase in todays market..

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Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469402
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I think the Porsche 944 / 928 might be quite good investments. I'm not sure if £5k would bag a decent one.

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469406
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Owning a few Alfa's, I am hoping that decent 75s will start to climb in value (paid 3k for mine 3 years ago, and it has an insurance value of 6.5 now although I doubt very much it would sell for that).

Alfa 155 prices are all over the place at the minute, but Q4s should start to go up although they will never make Integrale territory I suspect. Modified 155s in good condition are making current Coupe money. 2-3k will get a sorted 155 with a 3.0 24v V6, or a decent 20VT conversion (including brakes, handling etc).

Finally, at the budget end of the market, 33s are getting few and far between. I have one of only a few S2 Sport Wagons left, which needs a tidy up but is a complete solid car with a rare leather seat option. Also have 2 S3 33 Sport Wagons (1 taxed and tested, 1 for spares), a P4 and a 16v. All bought cheap! Surely they must start going up a little bit in the next 10 years!!

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469411
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Possibly E36 M3, already getting thin on the ground for a low mile mint one and I think prices are already starting climb slightly.
Mk 1 and 2 Golf GTI'S too.


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Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: technics] #1469497
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E34 M5s appear to have finally started to rise and I'm sure they'll eventually be joined by the E39s too.

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469499
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With BMW's I've seen a big price hike with the 325i (E30) too.

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469523
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Lotus Elite/Eclat.......pure 70's retro wedge getting very much in-vogue

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Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469816
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Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469862
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Renault 5 GT turbo.

These are rapidly becoming as rare as rocking horse poo!

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469865
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GTV Cup. 5k may be pushing it it, but find a good'un that needs just a little TLC and it'll be a keeper.


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Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469891
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Escort RS Turbo S1 has potential, as do many "fast fords" of the 80's.

There is also a good chance an early XK8 or a TWR XJS is a good buy as Jag sports cars are back en vogue.

Uno Turbo, Punto GT - something that evokes the memories for guys from 20 years ago - "Do you remember xxx" "oh yeah I always said I'd have one of those"

Guess you really need a special / limited model (No not another LE) like the Cosworth Merc 190, Thema 8.32 perhaps there's even an old Lotus / TVR that you could rescue and love?

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469914
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Originally Posted By: Big_Muzzie
Guess you really need a special / limited model (No not another LE) like the Cosworth Merc 190, Thema 8.32 perhaps there's even an old Lotus / TVR that you could rescue and love?


Yep, the Cossie Merc is a good bet - and here's one of the limited to around 500 made, of the 2.5 195bhp models.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1991-MERCEDES-...=item25885d6fb5

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469939
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That Merc is spot on, if you remove those terrible wheels and back box.

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469942
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Those Escort Mk1's are going for crazy prices!!

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469943
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What about Volvo 850 T5 or even the 480 turbos?

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469958
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Escort mk 1 and 2 any 2 door model and series 1 rs turbo . Mk 2 XR2. I can also see RS2000 MK 2 rising higher . This was Fiats answer to the RS2000 the Fiat 131 sport . This is the second one for 20k in the last couple of months http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251424825583?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Prevoius to that a black one needing tlc sold for 13.5k . I bought my Fiat 131 sport back in 2005 complete for under £500 . Its also the same with classic motorbikes . In 2006 i bought a nice running Suzuki RG500 for £1500 and then sold it for £2400 6 months later . Now you will be lucky to find one for 10K .


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Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469961
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Link from Robs post for ease of viewing

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Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: robcoupe20vt] #1469977
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What you buying next Rob? laugh

It's a tricky question, some have suggested Volvo, not my cup of tea new let alone old smile each to their own.
My suggestion is posssibly the Two seater MG?

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1469991
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If i had not got my Fiat 131 sport or Strada Abarth i would get a VW Golf GTI mk 1 totally standard or a series 1 Renault GT turbo . Not many GTs left most of them been modified .


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Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1470004
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The Volvo isn't going to be a future classic, they're missing the "thing" that some of the other cars mentioned have.

saab 900 carlsson??

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1470009
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I reckon mint Mk1 MX5s will also be classics as soon as the supply starts to dwindle.

They may be reliable, but they aren't immune to rust.

There will be millions of people who chopped in their MX5 for something sensible to have kids. They will want to come back to it.

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1470067
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The Volvo defence league will be rioting in the streets using their tartan rugs to whip the cops.

Some old volvos became classics - amazon or P1800 anyone?

Maybe the "boxy" generation have looks only a mother could love.

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I know there are two classic Volvos but they are as you said, evocative in design, the wedge and box thing I don't think is ever going to make you pay £10k+ when it hits 30.

Something with a British V8 in it. (Triumph, MG, Rover) nice complement to the coupe engine wise.

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1470087
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I think also Fiesta RS turbo's.

Their image took a battering in the mid 90's due to being owned by mainly boy racers, but as has been proven by other fast Ford's of the era, the prices will surely rocket in the next 10 years.

I suppose the hard part will be finding an unmolested example.

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1470090
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Of this list, the cars that I would not be able to walk past in the street without stopping for a look would be..

Alfa 155
Lotus Elite / Eclat
R5 GT Turbo
Volvo T5
Escort RS Turbo
Fiesta RS Turbo

I guess that means I have a square / boxy fetish.

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1470093
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Originally Posted By: Big_Muzzie
I know there are two classic Volvos but they are as you said, evocative in design, the wedge and box thing I don't think is ever going to make you pay £10k+ when it hits 30.

Something with a British V8 in it. (Triumph, MG, Rover) nice complement to the coupe engine wise.


True. I'd love a V8. Of course the "British" V8 in the MG, Rover, TVR etc is an American Buick engine. Our attempts at a V8 in the Truimph Stag was a bit of a damp squib.

Even the V8 in the Sunbeam Tiger was a Ford unit.

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Fair point I'll revise that to American V8 redesigned and then engineered / built in Britain. The Stag V8 was an OK motor, just needed more carbage!

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1470098
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Yep we are good at "modding" in the UK.

My uncle offered me his Rovet P6 V8. It was a great beast in racing green.
great memories of travelling in it as a kid. So went to see it in the barn where it had been stored for about 15 years, and it was a heap of rust so had to sell it on for parts. No doubt someone bought it just for the engine.

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1470121
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The last time I went to the Italian day at Brooklands I ended up standing next to chap who happened to mutter 'I wouldn't do that to mine in a millions years' whilst watching a Maserati Quattroporte (excuse the spelling) wait for its turn to run test hill. We got chatting about cars and it turns out he was an ex rally driver and was looking for a 205 GTI to renovate back to standard and was really struggling to find a 'good one'. Money didn't appear to be an issue...
I think this is the kind of market we are talking about, people who are looking to buy the cars that were about when they were young and lusted after? People also want to be a bit different from the crowd, the Coupe for example is perfect, in the last year I owned mine I only saw one other on the road!
I also think the X19 will be sought after in a few years, a solid two seater is always a good bet regardless of make.

Re: Coupe not a classic yet - What will join it? [Re: ] #1470122
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Originally Posted By: Shifty
...a solid two seater is always a good bet regardless of make.


I have a feeling the Barchetta could join that club. Imagine if Fiat had made it RWD...

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