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Re: What not to do... [Re: Hovedan] #1470631
25/01/2014 21:45
25/01/2014 21:45
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Deserves what's coming to him.

The original deal was £30 max which could be his word against yours but listening to this he's not doing himself any favours.

He's basically threatening you.

Keep at it!


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Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1470632
25/01/2014 21:50
25/01/2014 21:50

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Big_Muzzie
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That audio really wound me up, it takes 30 minutes to diagnose a fault like yours from trying the basics to plugging in. He owes a duty of care as a person pertaining to be a professional auto electrician, he's not used professional judgement or even rectified the fault. He'll fall down massively in a small claims court. I hope watchdog pick him up!

I had the same fault on mine, fixed for 450 by jbt. He's not even charging a fair rate. How did you not loose your temper??

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1470635
25/01/2014 21:55
25/01/2014 21:55
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Eastbourne, Sussex
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ive pm'd you


Re: What not to do... [Re: Richie007] #1470636
25/01/2014 21:59
25/01/2014 21:59
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This is outrageous, you've got to fight this all the way fella - this is your hard earned cash. grr


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Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1470669
26/01/2014 02:37
26/01/2014 02:37

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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I will, I'm not going to let this drop.
Thank you for your support and I will keep this updated.

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1470670
26/01/2014 03:03
26/01/2014 03:03

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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Looks like I will be doing the cam sensor by myself so will do a progress thread too

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1470679
26/01/2014 09:06
26/01/2014 09:06
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You are aware that the cam sensor replacement involves removing the cambelt and requires a couple of special tools?


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Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1470706
26/01/2014 11:57
26/01/2014 11:57

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MarcT
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Originally Posted By: Big_Muzzie
That audio really wound me up, it takes 30 minutes to diagnose a fault like yours from trying the basics to plugging in. He owes a duty of care as a person pertaining to be a professional auto electrician, he's not used professional judgement or even rectified the fault. He'll fall down massively in a small claims court. I hope watchdog pick him up!


Listening to him instantly wound me up! Fight this HARD all the way. Anyone with a brain cell can see and hear he's in the wrong so don't stop till you get the result you deserve. Bloke sounds like a complete and utter moron!

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1470709
26/01/2014 12:06
26/01/2014 12:06

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MarcT
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Oh and every time he says "Part payment bill" I feel my fist clenching a little more and more...you did well!

Re: What not to do... [Re: barnacle] #1470715
26/01/2014 12:42
26/01/2014 12:42

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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I'm going to order a new belt and cam lock tools and the idler and tensioner were new 10k ago but if I can afford it or strike a deal I will get them too.
But as you know my money's tight at the moment.
Don't been know if I can afford rent because of this guy!
I'm so ####ed off its unbelievable and I want to make him pay.

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1470730
26/01/2014 13:49
26/01/2014 13:49
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You had a contract with the garage which he obviously broke, indeed it would appear from what has been said never intended to be bound by it, you had no agreement to £580+. The agreement (which you both agreed on) was £30 (it seems from what you have said) and no more for the work, £30 from you in return he agreed to carry out some work on your car ie a diagnostic check etc.

You do/did not have to pay further and from the facts did not agree to any further work to be done.

Now the wonder of the law, instructing a solicitor at £200 an hour etc may be prohibitive for a £580 claim, a letter from them may work and be cheaper, he may pay, I doubt it.

https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/going-to-court

You can self rep at court, a hearing may not even be needed once you serve the application on notice......good luck.

Last edited by Submariner; 26/01/2014 13:51.
Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1470739
26/01/2014 14:39
26/01/2014 14:39

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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J



Would it best to take him to court before or after trading standards?

Thank you smile

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1470752
26/01/2014 15:49
26/01/2014 15:49
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SW London
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never good when things like this happen, i feel for you mate.

i didnt really hear anything incriminating on the audio tbh.

i expect this will rest on evidence that the initial agreement was to limit the bill at £30 just for diagnostics.

the audio simply confirms that they assert that you have only paid part of the bill despite the release of the car.

there is nothing in the audio that confirms that they will not pursue the rest of the bill, although at one point he does use the work 'warn' which he corrects to 'tell' which may suggest the pursual of the full bill is subject to you dropping any action that you may have suggested. None of this is on the audio though.

i would seek to assert the original position, that the car was provided just to seek an initial diagnostic and that subsequent work was not authorised. begin to document times, dates, calls / conversations detailing everything.

best of luck mate.

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1471017
27/01/2014 20:38
27/01/2014 20:38

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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A friend of mine popped into the garage to enquire their services and was rudely told where to go for snooping.
Think the owners loosing the plot.

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1471581
30/01/2014 11:00
30/01/2014 11:00

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I know it's too late now but we should always get a personal recommendation for garage work from someone we know and/or trust. I understand that sometimes we have not the time and we have to resort to Yellow Pages, etc. but I cannot remember the last time I commisioned work to be done by someone I din't know or had had a positive recommendation from.
Where are you at now in the proceedings?

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1471684
30/01/2014 22:09
30/01/2014 22:09
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Originally Posted By: NormalBloke
I know it's too late now but we should always get a personal recommendation for garage work from someone we know and/or trust. I understand that sometimes we have not the time and we have to resort to Yellow Pages, etc. but I cannot remember the last time I commisioned work to be done by someone I din't know or had had a positive recommendation from.
Where are you at now in the proceedings?


There are always recommendations available on here, and many people travel a long way to take advantage of them eg

here and of course FCSS

also

Coupe friendly Garages


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Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1471694
30/01/2014 23:30
30/01/2014 23:30

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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I don't have a working laptop at home so I'm going into work tomorrow to write up the letter requesting my money back or legal action will be taken.

Plus with the car not running and only a simple diag requested I doubted I would be ripped off I thought the worse outcome would be nothing found and still have to pay the £30

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1471918
01/02/2014 11:42
01/02/2014 11:42

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Still cannot believe this guy - 'have now listened to the audio.
Are you sure you can't get hold of 3 mates from your local rugby club, to have a little chat with him?

Good luck!

Last edited by NormalBloke; 01/02/2014 11:46.
Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1472523
05/02/2014 00:19
05/02/2014 00:19

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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I have been broken into and my two mountain bikes work £4000 been taken and the made up invoice hand delivered on the sake day!

Coincidence?

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1472526
05/02/2014 00:23
05/02/2014 00:23
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shocked

Police, fingerprints?

Are you insured?


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Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1472534
05/02/2014 00:56
05/02/2014 00:56

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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Police have been coming again tomorrow. Not insured as was planning to move it all to a lock up when the car was working. Dammit.

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1472536
05/02/2014 01:47
05/02/2014 01:47

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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J



Contents insurance now done. Hope the police get and or find my bikes as their not normal bikes.

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1472577
05/02/2014 11:14
05/02/2014 11:14

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NormalBloke
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If this bloke is as bent/crazy as described by you and the other complainants on that review site, then no coincidence at all IMO.
There again, 2 bikes worth £4k? There are plenty of desperate cyclists out there who may know what you ride and where you live.

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1472730
05/02/2014 19:54
05/02/2014 19:54

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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J



The bikes haven't moved since oct 2013 and there are no windows in the garage and the theft was too violent to be a normal thief

http://thelincolnite.co.uk/2014/02/bikes-worth-4000-stolen-lincoln-home/

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Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1473456
10/02/2014 00:48
10/02/2014 00:48

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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J



Police are looking into my speculation of the garage.

Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1473529
10/02/2014 13:25
10/02/2014 13:25
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Posts: 233
Stockton on Tees
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Making a profit

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Re: What not to do... [Re: ] #1473651
10/02/2014 21:43
10/02/2014 21:43

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Jason14520VT
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Jason14520VT
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Yes

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