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Brakes
#1467406
09/01/2014 10:41
09/01/2014 10:41
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LiamM
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LiamM
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A slightly unusual one, I need to fit 15" rims to my 20VT race car to met the regs for the race series I'm entering. has anyone fitted 15"? The calipers look like being the biggest problem to me.
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Re: Brakes
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#1467415
09/01/2014 11:05
09/01/2014 11:05
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F1ANG
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15" rims definatley won't go over the brembos on the front. The only way you'll be able to do it, is to fit smaller callipers. The 20v N/A callipers work quite well, with decent disks, pads and fluid etc... But you have a good bit more weight in a 20vt, so I wouldn't recommend it, especially on a track.
Or depending on how much your willing to part with, you could always go after market? Tarox or something but brand new the conversion won't be cheap. 1k + at least.
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Re: Brakes
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#1467419
09/01/2014 11:38
09/01/2014 11:38
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LiamM
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LiamM
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Looking at options for radially mounted calipers at the moment, not to worried about discs, I can machine down the existing new disks I have to fit.
I might be able to get some Seat Cupra radial calipers to fit it, maybe.......
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Re: Brakes
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#1467429
09/01/2014 11:59
09/01/2014 11:59
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LiamM
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LiamM
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ITCC, Irish Touring cars, only two tyre sizes available for my class, 15" and 17", 17" wheels are a waste of time considering the efforts we are going to in adjusting the gearing to suit the track. The car should be topping out at 130mph
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Re: Brakes
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#1467447
09/01/2014 12:35
09/01/2014 12:35
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LiamM
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LiamM
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195 / 50 R15 215 / 45 R17
The above are the only two sizes of Yokohama A048 tyres allowed in the class, the 17" option rolling circumference is quite a bit more than the 15". It makes a massive difference under acceleration!
I'd put 14" wheels on it if i could!!
Last edited by LiamM; 09/01/2014 12:35.
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Re: Brakes
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#1467449
09/01/2014 12:41
09/01/2014 12:41
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The Coupe 20VT is high geared, I can see how the acceleration could be improved with lower gearing, for a twisty track.
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Re: Brakes
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#1467452
09/01/2014 12:49
09/01/2014 12:49
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LiamM
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LiamM
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The Coupe 20VT is high geared, I can see how the acceleration could be improved with lower gearing, for a twisty track. Exactly, and they don't get more twisty than Mondello Park in Ireland! even the fastest cars will never see any more than 110mph on the main straight
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Re: Brakes
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#1467457
09/01/2014 13:20
09/01/2014 13:20
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LiamM
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LiamM
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Just picked up a set of Radially mounted rear calipers off a Boxster, now to make them fit!
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Re: Brakes
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#1467570
09/01/2014 23:37
09/01/2014 23:37
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Per
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Per
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Silly class, I wouldn't attend.
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Re: Brakes
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#1467643
10/01/2014 13:56
10/01/2014 13:56
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LiamM
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LiamM
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Is there any specific advantage in radially mounted calipers? Looking at some they would take up more space than standard mountings. I don't know specifically what the Boxster ones are like, presumably the main thing you want is low profile around the disc so the smaller wheel will fit. Have you thought of the kits sold by Demon Tweeks (amongst others) - http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/brake-kits/car/fiat/coupe/1998/2-0-20v It's easier to make them fit on a car with limited space like the coupe, cut the old lug mountings off and the radial mounts are a bit lighter, also an advantage if I ever want to fit larger discs as they just need to have spacers fitted. Those upgrade kits are very nice, but silly money, the Porsche calipers cost £250, and we will machine the existing discs to fit, The same outcome for a quarter of the cost
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Re: Brakes
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#1467644
10/01/2014 13:56
10/01/2014 13:56
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LiamM
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LiamM
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Silly class, I wouldn't attend. Why is it silly?
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Re: Brakes
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11/01/2014 07:46
11/01/2014 07:46
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johnnybravoturbo
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15" speedlines fit over brembos. Popular with the Peugeot croud ,need wobbly bolts.
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Re: Brakes
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#1467851
11/01/2014 13:12
11/01/2014 13:12
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Per
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Per
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Silly class, I wouldn't attend. Why is it silly? Sorry, I meant the regulations.. With a Coupe I'd choose another class instead of strangling the car to fit. Just my immidiate silly response. 
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Re: Brakes
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#1467863
11/01/2014 14:32
11/01/2014 14:32
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15" speedlines fit over brembos. Popular with the Peugeot croud ,need wobbly bolts. Which model wheels and what size disc? LiamM, you'll have to start a project thread. Looks like your build will be a good one to follow.
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Re: Brakes
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#1473749
11/02/2014 14:32
11/02/2014 14:32
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LiamM
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LiamM
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Update, we've managed to fit 15" wheels from my 16V Coupe onto the yellow 20VT Race car, discs were machined down to fit, mounting points for the Calipers modified to allow some adjustment, and 30mm spacers with stud conversion to allow the rim clearance
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Re: Brakes
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#1473751
11/02/2014 14:42
11/02/2014 14:42
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LiamM
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LiamM
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Also, we've turned the coupe 5 speed 'box into an Alfa / Fiat hybrid short ratio 6 speed!
Ingredients:
1 no spare Coupe 5 speed 'box 1 no spare Alfa 2.5V6 6 speed 'box 1 no Engineer with the patience of a saint
Method:
Empty the contents of the 2 boxes into a large pre oiled bowl and stir vigorously. Use the engineer to fit the 1-5 gears from the coupe box and the 6th gear from the Alfa box, to the Alfa final drive, in the coupe bell housing, using the back end of the longer housing from the Alfa box to accommodate the longer final drive shaft.
Simple, easy and cheap mod, a spare V6 box can be got for a little as £50
Q2 differential should also fit, I'll be going to a 1.5 way plate diff when funds allow.
Last edited by LiamM; 12/02/2014 11:53.
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Re: Brakes
[Re: Gunzi]
#1475143
19/02/2014 15:07
19/02/2014 15:07
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LiamM
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LiamM
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Liam great update - would be very interested if you manage to get the Q2 to fit! Q2 is a direct fit, differentials are identical, both were on work bench last weekend
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Re: Brakes
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#1475227
19/02/2014 22:00
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Ecrab
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[Q2 is a direct fit, differentials are identical, both were on work bench last weekend Are you sure its a direct fit. Other people who have fitted them say mods are required
Last edited by Ecrab; 19/02/2014 22:06.
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