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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: Brilly1uk] #1488891
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Car looks great i am really please for you, you are always helpful on this forum.

One more little touch though is to hide the rusty wheel bolts so get a set of the chrome finish bolt covers from ebay for about a £10(better than they sound i promise. Some in this picture Wheel bolt covers

Tom

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1488906
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Too late now, I fear, Tom. I start driving on Friday... Still have the oil and filter to change and the fan override switch to hide somewhere.


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1488910
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Love the pics Neil thumb

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1488913
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Thanks, Joe. Maya helped!


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1488914
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And while I'm here - let me say that this would not have been possible without Joe's enthusiastic support, help, ability to swing from exhausts, and inexhaustible cheerfulness when things fell off.

Thanks, mate.


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1488952
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Your welcome Neil smile

My therapy is going well btw, the twitching has nearly stopped along with the anxiety, cold sweats and nightmares crazy laugh

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1488961
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Yes, but are you still chewing bits of car when the dog's not watching?


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1488983
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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1488994
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Very nice. Looks like a very good paint job. The only thing, and I think I may get shot for this. The bumper/boot lid needs a jiggle. The lines aren't quit.

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1489000
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You won't get shot; I know.

Also, I don't like the colour I have painted the wheels. Unfortunately the sudden requirement for an exhaust system in toto meant there was insufficient time to get the wheels dipped and powder coated; that will have to do after I return.


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1489007
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Originally Posted By: barnacle
Joe's enthusiastic ability to swing from exhausts, and inexhaustible cheerfulness when things fell off.


That says it all tongue

Well done guys for such a transformation from a more sorry-looking 19-yr old I saw in February.


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1489034
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Originally Posted By: barnacle
You won't get shot; I know.

Looks like a job for when the paint has fully hardened, but the bumper should square up nicely. Just needs the holes elongating on the mounting points.

It really does look smart. Just need the right wheels back on.

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1515700
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Inlet sleeves are not available, neither is the main water hose at the rear frown

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1515703
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..........radiator has arrived though so that's now here safe and sound smile

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1515706
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Well that's at least *one* shiny thing to go back on! The old one can be a spare.

Do you have the dimensions of the manifold inlet sleeves to hand, Joe? Also, can we make the main water hose from three fat pipes and a T-piece? Need to look at that. I'm not looking forward to sticking it back on twenty years old...


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1515730
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Originally Posted By: barnacle
Do you have the dimensions of the manifold inlet sleeves to hand


I'll get the dimensions before I finish tonight.

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I've found some new inlet dognuts smile

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: Countrycruising] #1515800
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Originally Posted By: Countrycruising
I've found some new inlet dognuts smile

How much out of curiosity? (says the man using the tipo 16v inlet manifold)


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Your car is Usain Bolt with wellies
Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: Begbie] #1515801
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I've found some new inlet dognuts smile

How much out of curiosity? (says the man using the tipo 16v inlet manifold)


Not mega money for a set so once the price in confirmed I'll let you know.

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1515890
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Pm'ed you Alexis.

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: Countrycruising] #1516337
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Fine stuff Neil - I'm surprised the two shards didn't cause more damage.


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1516340
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Quite impressive that they just sat where they were. We found one in an internal oil-way and the other just floating around in the bottom.

I think I got away with it because they're too heavy a chunk to move too far in random oil movement. They're half an inch long and a quarter thick.


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1516491
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I`ll just get back to my fluffing around the edges then.

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1517679
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Neil there are pictures of your freshly re-ground crank, they're on my FCSS Facebook page so you'll have to join to view them tongue

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1517743
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I won't, you know... tongue

Is it me or has the regrind included not only cleaning and replugging the oil galleries, but also what looks like some balancing?


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle - discussion [Re: barnacle] #1517814
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I was just thinking if they rebalanced the crank as those drill holes look fresh.

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle [Re: barnacle] #1522170
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Polite discussion with an angle grinder and hammer per chance?

A few more photos and you'll have a Haynes manual.

p.s. I have a copy of your book. Not a Bangle signed on like yours though.

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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle [Re: barnacle] #1523207
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Hello,

Nice to see that someone else put much effort in "only 16V NA" for many people it woult be waste of money/time to spent such amount of effort on stock 16V...

I´ve read that your intention is to use 16VT final drive.. I think that it won´t fit to 16V NA gearbox..

only option is something longer from punto GT (someting around 3,3:1, I dont´know exactly) or tipo 2GT or sedici where is 3,545:1.... coupe has 3,733:1 16V turbo is different family of gearboxes...

to improve reliability and prevent oil pressure problems is good to remove balance shaft and use balance shaft eliminating kit from eg. deltaparts (I made my own..).

If its late to remove balance shafts, then simply don´t use balance shaft belt.. you will improve reliability of timing belt but problems with oil pressure can remain (middle bearing of balance shafts are in 90% of cases wery badly worn and most of oil pressure is lost here and in oil sprays..)


20 years with yellow 2.0 16v NA
22 years with black SEDICIVALVOLE

Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle [Re: barnacle] #1523213
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Thanks Honza,

Already discovered that the turbo final drive won't fit without significant effort; it needs the pinion gear as well as the differential changing and that's so far down the cluster you may as well just change the lot.

So I'm sticking with the original (but a new-to-me second hand box, as my differential is dead).

I'd prefer to keep the balance shafts working. It's not too late to remove, and yes, there is a concern about the bearings, but the pressure before the fix wasn't too bad (1.7 bar hot).

The main thing here is as much originality as possible, while attempting to make something that will last another twenty years.


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Re: Barnacle's Olde Original 16v Fettle [Re: barnacle] #1523864
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Then, If you want to improve mpg, or reduce rpm on long jurneys, you can simly use wheels with bigger circumference.

As I have shorter final drive (4,07:1) -which is about 9% shorter in comparison to standart, but I´m using stock 20VT wheels and tyre size for normal driving. For track I change the wheels for 200/580/15 which correspond to 195/50/15... there is about 6% difference in total revolutions per mile and larger wheels partly compensate for shorter final drive..


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22 years with black SEDICIVALVOLE

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