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Car too low. What are my options?
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19/03/2014 17:57
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I've been running Eibach springs with standard shocks for a couple of years. I like the look of the car on these lowered springs but the ride is terrible. This is mainly due to the large number of pot holes, man-hole covers and bad patch repairs on the roads in my area, although I'm sure the standard shocks are also well past their best which isn't helping. Encountering speed bumps is also a challenge, and unfortunately there are loads around where I live.
I've decided the car is just too low on the Eibachs - particularly at the front. Like most folks on here, I had to trim the bump stops to give the suspension a tiny bit of travel!
I know there have been loads of threads on here discussing various spring and shock combinations, but it seems all the lowering springs drop the car by 35-40mm which is more than I'd like.
Are there any springs which drop the car a little less? I'm thinking maybe 20mm or so. That way I could still have a slightly lowered "look" but wouldn't have to suffer quite as much on the speed bumps and potholed roads around here.
Am I asking too much? I don't really want to go back to standard ride height as it gives the car a ridiculous 4x4 appearance (in my opinion!).
Any comments or suggestions?
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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19/03/2014 18:28
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As mentioned in a recent thread the Eibachs run the car too low for my liking. I have Billies and Eibachs on my Scottie along with 17" alloys, 205 x 40 Toyos and my dentures/buttocks are constantly in trouble over the myriad of potholes and road repairs in sunny Kent (although the cornering is brilliant). On my Moon VT6 I have standard shocks with Joe's lowering springs and standard 16" Plus wheels and the ride is soooo much better. Too many handling threads on here to handle so you should be able to make an informed decision - the FCSS springs are great, but stick to standard wheels IMHO.
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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19/03/2014 20:19
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Thanks Tim. I've done some searching and there was a fair bit of discussion on here back in 06-07 about fitting 16VT Eibachs on a 20VT. Apparently they only drop the front by 20-25mm and offer a slightly softer ride. Sounds like just the ticket.
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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19/03/2014 20:45
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In a similar position...I wanted to lower my coop but didn't want to have to suffer poor ride conditions. Have another car that already does that.
After a lot of reading on the forum I chose Joes FCSS springs. You can probably still get a set from the current group buy. Hopefully being sent out next week.
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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19/03/2014 22:01
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To be honest I'm so fed up with the terrible ride quality I think I'll just end up going back to standard springs and shocks (Are they even available anymore from Fiat??)
It wasn't really a problem when I only drove the car occasionally, but as I'm now driving it every day I really need a more comfortable ride. Also, a suspension refresh is needed before my trip to Italy at the end of May!
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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19/03/2014 23:01
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Have you though about a set of spring assistors? Seconds to fit and remove and come in different thicknesses.
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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20/03/2014 11:36
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would monroes and kyb springs be a good match? I think the kybs are standard ride height?
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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20/03/2014 20:10
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Thanks for the comments! I agree the shocks are probably a major factor but I can't help feeling a little hesitant about blowing a small fortune on new bilsteins if the crashy ride will remain. I mean the front suspension probably only has about 1cm or so of travel (about the amount I cut off the bump stops) with the eibachs! Will new billies (or monroe??) Shocks be a huge improvement?
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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22/03/2014 23:45
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Has anybody tried Bravo top mounts with Eibach/Bilstein combo?
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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24/03/2014 17:56
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Why only cut 1cm off the front bumpstops? You can fit a much shorter bumpstop to the front without issues. Eibachs do have a crashy ride, there's not much you can do about it apart from ensuring you have enough travel and a good damper to match the increased spring rate.
Bilsteins are slightly shorter if I remember correctly and ever so slightly increased damping so will work better with the springs, it won't be a miracle transformation but it will be an improvement. Thanks for the response Jimbo. The 1cm I mentioned above was just a guess, it was probably a bit more than that now I think about it. Basically, I cut the bottom "doughnut" off the bump stop, so whatever that translates to. Billies would be nice but they cost a small fortune these days. Do you have any opinions on Monroe shocks and whether these are likely to work OK with Eibachs?
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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25/03/2014 15:36
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After reading pages and pages on here about shocks and springs, i have original alloys and just fitted kyb shocks, i would like to lower the car with some spax springs, but am worried the ride might get even harsher especially as i drive in town/cities mainly and am sick of humps and sunken manhole covers. I am tempted just to use the kyb springs even though they keep the car at the original height. The car has the usual 15 inch alloys , being a 16v, would these spax springs make life difficult , anyone ever tried them with standard alloys...ps , not convinced about the kyb shocks yet ! I know everyone like the billies and eibachs etc, but most seem to agree they dont help the ride either. To lower or not to lower, that is the question ! Anyone used spax springs ??
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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26/03/2014 18:17
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i heard that sparco springs lower around 2cm but i can't guarantee if that's true or not
me too i'm worried about the car too low
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Re: Car too low. What are my options?
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20/04/2014 22:55
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Well in the end I decided to stick with the Eibach springs and spent this morning fitting new monroe shocks. Definitely a major improvement over my worn out standard shocks. Very pleased, and a bit of a bargain compared with billies. Result!
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