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Which wheel spacers? #1483309
12/04/2014 15:15
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Picked up some second hand alloy wheels today and need some advice on fitting kits. The wheels I bought are 4x100 et 43 and bore size 73.1, I have ordered some spigot rings (73.1 - 58.1)but im unsure if I need whobbly bolts or tuner bolts and what spacers I need hubcentric or just normal spacers like the ones in Halfords to bring the et back into line.
Once fitted I will post a photo up of the coop with its new wheels and side skirts fitted.

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483310
12/04/2014 15:30
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use hubcentric spacers and yes your need wobblie bolts as the wheels are 4x100 .

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483320
12/04/2014 16:35
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should I stick to 5mm spacers and are these any good 5mm

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483322
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They don't look like hubcentric spacers


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Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483323
12/04/2014 17:42
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what difference do they make to handling

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483328
12/04/2014 17:54
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Isn't that ET enough? Are you sure you need spacers? Have you tried to fit them?

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483331
12/04/2014 18:04
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Originally Posted By: patch234
Isn't that ET enough? Are you sure you need spacers? Have you tried to fit them?


Not had chance to fit them as i dont have spigot rings or whobbly bolts yet, ive gone for some 215,35,18's. I was looking at spacers as i want a wider stance.
Im sat in a dark room trying to get rid of my headache after a 250mile round trip on the motorway - that exhaust you sold me bloody loud.

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483335
12/04/2014 19:02
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Hahahaha, Strange that as on my car it was no where as loud as on yours? I wonder why it was so different from one car to another??

I would of thought that a ET of 43 would clear the brembo's and stick out more than stock wheels??

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483347
12/04/2014 20:15
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you need to do a test fit to see if you do need spacers but you will need wobblie bolts to fit them .

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483348
12/04/2014 20:28
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I wouldn't use any wobbly bolts with spacers combined hubcentric or not, unless your using metal spigot rings. Wobbly bolts and plastic spigot rings are not what I'd call safe lol.

I used H&R hub adapters on my Coupe they do 4x98 to 4x100 adapters but the smallest they go down to is 20mm, so maybe a little to big for yourself depends how much you want your wheels to fill your arch and how wide your wheels are I used 25mm ones on mine with zero issues.

Brad

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483349
12/04/2014 20:52
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Whats the problem with using plastic spigots with whobbly bolts?

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483350
12/04/2014 20:54
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none .

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483351
12/04/2014 20:56
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I run plastic spigots with wobblie bolts and have had no problems over 5 years .

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483352
12/04/2014 20:56
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Well you wouldn't drive around on plastic wheels would you?

With wobbly bolts it's fine if the wheel is centrally supported straight to the hub by the bore of the wheel or solid metal spigot rings.

But using plastic spigot rings there's a lot of forces going through them with bolts that can allow movement wouldn't be a problem on normal bolts.

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483353
12/04/2014 20:58
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but that's what the plastic spigot rings do , once in place and bolted down there isn't going to be any movement with wobblie bolts as they work the same as standard bolts

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483354
12/04/2014 21:00
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That's fair enough Iain if you get away with and torque up your bolts regularly but I wouldn't personally recommend it to someone else lol

I would not trust them.

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483355
12/04/2014 21:00
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Originally Posted By: bradthe16vt

Well you wouldn't drive around on plastic wheels would you?


rolleyes

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483357
12/04/2014 21:02
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a wheel company wouldn't sell plastic spigot rings if they wasn't safe

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483358
12/04/2014 21:03
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I'm sorry to sound cynical, but it's safety at the end of the day.

In my opinion I just like to rule things out metal spigot rings cost about twice the amount of plastic ones it's not a lot for peace of mind.

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483359
12/04/2014 21:07
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I agree but there isn't anything wrong with plastic spigot rings . 99.9% of wheels fitted to modded/standard cars will be running plastic spigot rings supplied by a wheel company so they can fit the wheels unless they are the wheels design for the car/hub .

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483361
12/04/2014 21:13
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No I agree to, unless used with wobbly bolts wink

It's fine if you regularly give your car a once over and torque them up etc, or torque them up in sequence properly in the first place.

But you'll find most people don't and for that reason I wouldn't recommend them with wobbly bolts.

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483362
12/04/2014 21:16
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mine get torque once a year at service/mot time and that's it , no problems after 5 years so I rest my case .

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483363
12/04/2014 21:25
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back on track what j are your wheels Sheep ?

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483365
12/04/2014 21:27
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That is an appalling attitude for a vehicle enthusiast to have Iain lol

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483366
12/04/2014 21:31
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who said I was a enthusiast , all I can say is tried and tested mate

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483367
12/04/2014 21:33
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Wheels are 18 x 7.5 wrapped in 215/35/18's

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Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483368
12/04/2014 21:34
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Oi keep your wig on I was only taking the Michael about you checking your bolts yearly lazy git laugh

That's fair enough mate everyone's entitled to their own opinion. tongue

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483369
12/04/2014 21:36
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7.5j will be wider that the standard fiat wheels 7j so will fill the arches a bit more , do a test fit when you have the spigot rings and see if they need spacers .

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483370
12/04/2014 21:37
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Originally Posted By: bradthe16vt
everyone's entitled to their own opinion. tongue


very true .

Re: Which wheel spacers? [Re: ] #1483424
13/04/2014 14:53
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A spigot ring only locates the wheel on the hub and doesn't carry any load, the wheel bolts carry the load.
Do you seriously think aluminium spigot rings would be any better? The plastic probably deforms less under load than alloy.

Relax, fit plastic, be happy.

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