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what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt #1491900
03/06/2014 20:57
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as about whats you opinions on clutches to handle 400bhp and be a daily driver?

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1491902
03/06/2014 21:00
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one point of view could be to get 6 paddle clutch this way it will allow for BHP expansion if you choose to later on... light weight flywheel at same time to help faster speed up ??


Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1491903
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whats the daily going to be like on a 6 paddle has anyone got one fitted?

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Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1491908
03/06/2014 21:16
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yes I do. the 6 paddle is stiffer to operate than the standard clutch, I find it very corse when finding clutch n bite to pull away, on gear change no issue... its fine when used to it.

sometimes you can get judder from the 6 paddle setup. on pulling away.

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1491913
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is there no organic option ?

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1491915
03/06/2014 21:25
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I used to have some heavy duty cover and sintered plate without springs, it hold 450+bhp but daily driving is terrible, every start the engine want to jump out..
Friend, also with 450bhp have Helix set with organic & spring plate (full circle) and it drives like a stock clutch smile

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1491917
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Yes - Helix Organic - I've had four or five in a row (I used to do monster miles)

It gives a very heavy clutch pedal, but you get used to it. As long as you skim the flywheel when fitting, it will be perfect in traffic - I used to be able to trickle along without touching the throttle.

As the cover plate wears (or if you don't skim the flywheel), it can get juddery, but anything over 1,500rpm will cure that when pulling away

I'm currently running in excess of 450bhp and about 375lb-ft - this is way over the rating for this clutch, but it just goes to show how cautious Helix have been with their ratings

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1491918
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that's sounds like the beast where do I get one?

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1491919
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Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1491927
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Helix organic. = http://www.mardigras.co.uk/



Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1493534
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If I went for the helix would it be ok to just fit
The friction plate to a luk pressure plate?

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1493598
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Opposite way is better.. Pressure plate/cover is more important then drive plate smile

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1493600
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you say you get a heavy clutch pedal is there no way to change the master or slave to make it lighter or as original its only a clutch so should not be any safety implications
Im still undecided on what clutch to go for needs to be mrs friendly just incase the worst happens and she needs to use my car! Lets hope not!!

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1493627
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I've got used to the Helix clutch, but to be fair, my wife would hate it - this is going to be horribly un-PC, but its really not a gurly-friendly clutch rolleyes

However, if you want to handle 400bhp AND keep it usable in traffic, you really don't have a lot of choice.

I reckon she'd hate a paddle clutch even more.....

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1493646
12/06/2014 23:43
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Yeah I know you are right Nigel hopefully get this sorted soon with my 6 speed box
Cheers rich

Re: what clutch for 400bhp and daily driver 20vt [Re: gillan] #1494603
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How about the CO.ME clutch from AE CAR. Any reviews?

http://www.aecar.co.uk/Pages/AE1023KR.aspx


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