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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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19/06/2014 12:21
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England expects, so we'll probably lose And boy is that going to hurt Not because we're out of the cup It's just I spent forty pounds on a shirt But it's always the same When we play a game You know the fans will all cry So I'll give England a snub When I go down the pub And pretend I'm from Uruguay
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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19/06/2014 14:58
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Hoping to see a bit more life from England later, but won't be surprised if not. Operation: get the ball to Sterling. Lallana and Barkley need to get on earlier this time around too. Our young players are the ones who look hungry and competent.
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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19/06/2014 23:03
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Absolute rubbish . I say sack them all and start afresh . Gerrard is useless and i dont know how hes the captain . All the hype about Sterling i dont understand .
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Re: The world cup 2014
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19/06/2014 23:16
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At least Sterling has a work rate and looks like he wants it. So Rooney scored, that was one less than we needed and two less than we wanted.
Reading the comment about Spain, I think we have the same sense of resignation.
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Roadking]
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19/06/2014 23:21
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At least Sterling has a work rate and looks like he wants it. So Rooney scored, that was one less than we needed and two less than we wanted.
Reading the comment about Spain, I think we have the same sense of resignation. If sterling was that good why was he pulled off .Hes no Micheal Owen just another over hyped england player . At least Rooney and co can have an expensive Holiday break after this god knows they deserve it .
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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20/06/2014 00:20
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Why is anyone surprised? As far as I know, every time since 1966 England have failed to win the football World Cup.
Why should 2014 be different?
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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20/06/2014 08:52
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I saw that Scottish guy - made me chuckle at the idea of someone spending thousands of pounds to go and watch England being not very good! Reminded me of McGlashan!
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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20/06/2014 13:03
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Re: The world cup 2014
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20/06/2014 13:57
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Re: The world cup 2014
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20/06/2014 14:56
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Absolute rubbish . I say sack them all and start afresh . Gerrard is useless and i dont know how hes the captain . All the hype about Sterling i dont understand . Then you really have no idea about football, raheem sterling is one of the youngest players to ever put an England shirt on, the fact he is 19yrs old and playing in a world cup against the copa America cup winners, world cup semi finalists and confed cup semi finalists says it all! Steven Gerrard being captain? I literally have not got enough time to explain why. The guy is the drive force behind club and country. I can't name a better midfielder that England have had since Paul Gascoigne. As for being useless that's just laughable. England were last night beaten by a world class player and team. I personally don't think they have anything to be ashamed of.
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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20/06/2014 20:12
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Just shows you know naff all about the game . Maybe in the future he will be a world class player for england maybe not . I heard the same thing about Rooney . Just because you are picked to play against world class players does not make you world class . Gerrard is a joke and over the hill . If you read what most football pundits in the daily sport sections you might learn something http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/spo...lane-home.html. Their worse performance at a world cup since 1952 . Nothing to be ashamed of i say nothing to be proud of .
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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20/06/2014 20:22
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Absolute rubbish . I say sack them all and start afresh . Gerrard is useless and i dont know how hes the captain . All the hype about Sterling i dont understand . Then you really have no idea about football, raheem sterling is one of the youngest players to ever put an England shirt on, the fact he is 19yrs old and playing in a world cup against the copa America cup winners, world cup semi finalists and confed cup semi finalists says it all! Steven Gerrard being captain? I literally have not got enough time to explain why. The guy is the drive force behind club and country. I can't name a better midfielder that England have had since Paul Gascoigne. As for being useless that's just laughable. England were last night beaten by a world class player and team. I personally don't think they have anything to be ashamed of. The picture says it all http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ed-interne.html
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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20/06/2014 20:35
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You're quoting the sun news paper? Lol And going by what Internet trolls say. I never said Sterling was world class I simply expressed my opinion on the "hype" about Sterling.
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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20/06/2014 20:51
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The same thing was said about Gerrard in the Mirror ? And go to any of the football forums (not trolls )and you will hardly find a postive word about the way england played after just two games .
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Re: The world cup 2014
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20/06/2014 22:10
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What David Beckham said a few weeks ago . Reading his comment now is laughable .http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9343436/world-cup-david-beckham-says-englands-young-squad-will-be-up-for-it I would suggest the whole system is changed from grass roots football to the top .The way it is now does not work and something has to change otherwise this will happen again in four years time .
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Jim_Clennell]
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21/06/2014 08:16
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The premier league and the way it functions is part of the issue.
Top British teams tend to buy quick success rather than develop and grow their own talent. The premier league is one of the wealthiest leagues in the world, with some of the richest clubs. But how many top British players are produced by these clubs?
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Re: The world cup 2014
[Re: Carlscott]
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21/06/2014 13:23
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The thing is, we were in a group with 2 teams ranked above us in the FIFA rankings (yes, I know Spain would say they are meaningless), so it's not real surprise we have come up against to "better" (ranking-wise) and lost both times.
The performances in both games have been head and shoulders above the utter dirge that we served up against the USA and Algeria in the South Africa. At least we were playing with more attacking intent and pace than we used to.
As for the squad, this was always going to be a championship where we blooded younger players at a higher level, with a view to the next euros and the WC after that.
The younger players have been by far the most impressive of the team, Stirling is not the complete player he will no doubt become, but who else though that shot 5 mins into the Italy game went in? We need players that can have the confidence to try that, rather than the conservative approach we saw under the last 2/3 managers.
We have got the basis of a half decent attack, Wellbeck, Stirling, Rooney or Sturridge....or Crouch, Rooney, Defoe & Heskey?? Which quartet would you prefer?
Our defence are the real issue - we know all about Suarez and Balotelli, but we did nothing to counter them. Our back 4 were the real problem, no idea what anyone sees in Glen Johnson, as bizarre as Sven's love in with Owen Hargreaves.
The other issue is that Costa Rica clearly did their homework in dealing with Italy and Uruguay than we did.
Of course, as a Torquay United fan, my opinion of the problems of English football are probably best ignored.....
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