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dissapointing RR
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14/07/2006 03:05
14/07/2006 03:05
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after having my coop now for about 6 months i thought it time to get it on the rolling road and see whats what, after all the service history says its got a "ecu upgrade chip" and "uprated turbo", unfortunatly it doesn't give any details as to whats been fitted. So down i go to the rolling road on wednesday and i was kinda hoping for 250 bhp as it had been "chipped". Anyways the guy comes through after doing it and says i don't think you will be to happy and hands me the print out. 198bhp !!!! wtf. I don't have a scanner to show the print out but basically he said that the car was ridiculously over fueling, running 9-1 ratio on petrol. this really meant nothing to me but then he said there show car (scooby) running 280 bhp was only running 11-1 ratio. I have made comments on here before about my teribble fuel consumption but always been convinced its either the way i drive or the route i go to work on the back roads. He said he rekons its the chip that has been installed that is causing the over fueling and poor results plus it was damm hot but i want your opinions. also he said the turbo doesn't look any different from a standard one, maybe its just a replacement as my car is coming up to 100K Considering that he maybe right i have sent grahamL a pm (which i have got a read receipt for but no reply) asking for details on a gtec1 as thats what most of you are using and seem to have little problems with, but i am not getting any replys, is there any other ways i can contact him and get my hands on one. secondly if i manage to get a gtec1 chip and fit it, will i need the red key when i start it up ?? what problems if any has anyone had ? Obviously my dream car is slowly but surely grinding me down and any help on this topic would be very appreiciated. Thanks Karl
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Re: dissapointing RR
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14/07/2006 04:20
14/07/2006 04:20
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As Pinin says, get a GTEC1 and try it again. GrahamL often takes a little while to answer his PMs, so give him a day or two . As far as the turbo is concerned, a hybrid will look identical to the standard one from the outside (it has a different compressor wheel and bearing inside that gives it the extra performance ), so don't worry too much. Basically, get the fuelling right and you will be surprised how much difference it can make. My car want from 275ish to 304 after the Unichip was fitted, and that basically only changed the fuelling from mega rich to normal. The other thing to consider is the boost control. If you are running a standard EBV you will not hold enough boost at the top end to get a decent power figure. PM Cosmograph for one of his PRVs, and you can significantly improve this for a little over £20 . Once fitted with a GTEC chip, you will be pleasantly surprised by the difference . You might not get 250bhp, but it should be comfortably the fun side of 200. Phil
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Re: dissapointing RR
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14/07/2006 05:21
14/07/2006 05:21
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Ah this coupe tuning malarky. Im the exact oppisite mate with terrible under fueling or running "lean". One thing we do have in common though is that I need a Gtec1 chip for Tuesday, I PM'd GrahamL ages ago but have yet to recieve a reply. At this rate Im going to have to go for 2 RR visits which ofcourse I have 2 pay for twice . Please Graham L if you're out there I can paypal you the £35 quid now .
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Re: dissapointing RR
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14/07/2006 06:18
14/07/2006 06:18
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sorry to sound stupid but what is EBV?
thanks for the help so far, I really want the Gtec1 please GrahamL.
any other ideas for instance if i get her back to 220 is it worth attempting to go for 300 bhp (a long way off i know) or could there be something seriously wrong or damaged because of this.
Thanks again.
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Re: dissapointing RR
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14/07/2006 09:42
14/07/2006 09:42
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ebv controls the wastegate actuator. the wastegate actuator controls the wastegate. the wastegate allows exhaust gases to bypass the turbine of the turbocharger thus reducing the amount of boost created by the turbo. good read :- http://www.bugone.co.uk/fiat/boost_analysis.htmcheers.
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Re: dissapointing RR
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14/07/2006 14:18
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I've had the same silent treatment from GrahamL.
Is he out there? Perhaps on holiday? Maybe passed away? I think we should be told..!
Graham! There's money to be made, sir. Wake up!
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Re: dissapointing RR
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14/07/2006 18:39
14/07/2006 18:39
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I will definatley get my car booked in for a compression test asap any ideas on how much i should be looking to pay and is there anything else i should get checked whilst its in the garage ?
I can't find anything on ebay to do with Gtec1 or Gtec2.
Please help.
Thanks for the info above, its very interesting.
Is the PRV easy to intall ? i will send cosmo a PM for details and get one ordered.
Thanks guys
Last edited by karl_20_20VT; 14/07/2006 18:43.
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Re: dissapointing RR
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17/07/2006 19:49
17/07/2006 19:49
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Maybe, just maybe, it was a hot day (coops really do suffer in the heat), the intake temps were high sitting on the rollers, and with 100k miles on the clock she is just a little tired? Losing 10% power after 100k miles is pretty good i would have thought... Get the bits done by all means, but there's not always a problem when the power isn't exactly the same as standard. A standard coop might have only put out 210bhp out of the factory afterall.
F****** b****** thing...
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Re: dissapointing RR
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19/07/2006 21:35
19/07/2006 21:35
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PM read and replied to now, apologies for the delay.
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