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Family of Boy arrested in Spain - Heavy handed?
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31/08/2014 18:17
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According to a news report I have read it seems the reason the parents fled was over the radiotherapy treatment the hospital proposed. Given the position of the tumour the parents asked for proton beam treatment but this was not available on the NHS. I am not saying that taking the child out of the hospital in the way they did was a clever move but I can understand maybe their motives.
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Re: Family of Boy arrested in Spain - Heavy handed?
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01/09/2014 08:56
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I watched the video the dad psoted on Youtube. If what he says is true, Southampton hospital (and 2 named consultants) haven't come out of it too well. Given our recent experience of an NHS hospital and consultants, it doesn't seem to unbelievable
"RK's way seems the most sensible to me". ali_hire 16 Dec 2010
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Re: Family of Boy arrested in Spain - Heavy handed?
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01/09/2014 09:15
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I can't judge anyone in that position........... I just hope the lad gets better.....
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Re: Family of Boy arrested in Spain - Heavy handed?
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01/09/2014 11:14
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I can't judge them. What I do know is that you are railroaded down a particular path with treatment. I can see why as especially in the beginning you are pretty ignorant as to the choices open to you. Once a treatment path has been agreed it is very difficult to get it changed when you start learning about the pros and cons of the drugs and methods being used. Looks like they wanted a change which fell on deaf ears. More research is needed for children's cancer treatments. My work colleague set of a charity to do something about it. http://www.christopherssmile.org.uk/
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Re: Family of Boy arrested in Spain - Heavy handed?
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The sledgehammer of the European Arrest Warrant is what we have now opened ourselves up to. Behind the twists and the turns, the interpretations of the law and the aims of the authorities and objectives of our criminal justice system, lies something really quite sinister. Just like the Kings, you, or I, could be arrested anywhere in Europe for something that is not even a crime – and held merely for questioning, perhaps for months.
In just a couple more months, the UK will opt fully into the European Arrest Warrant, alongside 34 other equally pernicious EU legal schemes, without any recourse to the general public. For a Government talking tough on reforming Europe, and blocking the handover of any further significant powers to Brussels, one of the biggest and most worrying transfers of your freedoms and your protections is about to happen under their watch.
When it was introduced, we were told the EAW was for terrorist offences, rape, murder, drug dealing and the like. Now it is used to pursue those who – perhaps misguidedly – are acting out of conscience. The slippery slope is before us.
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Re: Family of Boy arrested in Spain - Heavy handed?
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03/09/2014 01:23
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We have seen this quote before, please use your own brain rather than somebody else's.
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Re: Family of Boy arrested in Spain - Heavy handed?
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03/09/2014 11:28
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This entire farrago has been caused by the parent's actions. Well that is one conclusion the media would have us jump to. The reality is probably somewhere in between. Having been through the process I can also see that should you disagree with the treatment team it can be very difficult to get you concerns heard. The internet is awash with information and misinformation and they may have been lead by that. I still make the call that the parents were working in the best interests of their child but that may have been mis-guided.
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Re: Family of Boy arrested in Spain - Heavy handed?
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03/09/2014 15:25
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However, I find it amazing that we question the recommendations of highly qualified doctors/consultants and think that we know better. Actually I consider challenging these highly qualified doctors/consultants is a good thing. The medical profession is another body where it is difficult to challenge the advice or treatemnt you receive, because it seems to close ranks against criticism, unless it has to deal with it. Why belive once consultant is right if you get conflicting advice from another? Why assume either is right if a third has another opinion. I would not have wanted my kids to undergo thst treatment with it's possible side effects if I'd believed there was an alternative treatment which may have had considerably less chance of affecting cognitive function after. After all this is a treatment not available on the NHS, so I would immediately question the validity of the consultant's opinon based on that constraint alone. After all we know there are significant numbers of drugs available to prolong life expectancy of terminal illness sufferers which are not approved for use by NICE based on the cost to the NHS. Incidentally Ms RK recently spent 2 weeks in the Queen Mary Hospital after a bad car crash. It has gone some way to undermine our faith in the NHS.
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"RK's way seems the most sensible to me". ali_hire 16 Dec 2010
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