its a twofold problem really:

the front-right woofer has the same feed as the front left tweeter!
similarly with FLeft woofer and FRight tweeter ! im thinking thats not right?


my other problem is i need to wire in the new crossovers for the components but theres just 2 feeds (4 wires) for all 4 front speakers, and the loom dissapears up behind the dash where i assume at some point each feed is spliced into 4 wires. How am i supposed to get to the wire to fit the crossovers?

bit stuck, wasnt really what i expected to fine in there.

any help appreciated? im sweating my arse off with my car in a mess and not much daylight left <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

so im thinking;

take the left woofer feed to the left crossover and wire in a new tweeter output feed and ignore the old feed, just tape the wires off?

that will work? wont it <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

yep thats what i'll do (tommorrow) need a beer now <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re-wire is the answer for the fronts. The leads are split somewhere in the depths of the dashboard so don't use them. The crossovers can be stored in the dash ends behind the panel.

it very much appears to be the original install, so why on earth would the left and right feeds be mixed up in this way?
I think it could well be deliberate but i cant fathom why?

You sound surprised that an italian car has dodgy wiring <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Just be thankful that they are there at all <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Dan, rewire. The original loom is not brilliant, Is far far far easier to start again. Use decent wire this way you also know the install is 100% right.

thing is about using decent wire, the terminal wiring on the alpine speakers i have is about 1mm thick, so i could use the best oxygen free massive cable in the world and it would still be bottlenecked by the feeble last connections on the speakers. Short of dismantling the speakers there not much can be done about this i wouldnt think?

True mate.. However you always then have a decent wire loom in place that you know is not damaged or decaying. Would not go silly on speaker wire just get a semi decent wire.

Ok all done.

tbh im disappointed with the sound. Its very clear and bright, and the timing is much better, no bass overhang at all... in fact, hardly any bass <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

its all quite mid/high range. What id call a bit of a boxy sound.

I used quite a bit of sound deadening in the doors, and against the body 'skin' in the rear quarters.

Theres just no low bass, at a guess id say im getting maybe 80-100hz at lowest.

Ive used alpines all round. 6x9 in the rear and components in the front, 6.5".

I know speakers need to loosen up but ive put a few hours through and theres no real improvement.

Bummer really. Its not awful, buts its not great and took a lot of time to install

I know i could get a sub, but really id expect this current setup to produce plenty of clout for my tastes, ive never needed a sub in the past to be satisfied.

oh yeh, how do i access EQ on the standard clarion unit? i press the button but nothing happens? theres always a chance someone has ditched a lot of bass due to the standard speakers being quite plodding and woolly.

set the base to +1 and the treble to+2 and switch the loudness on, clarian units are not realy known for sq but should have some base

ok how do i switch the loudness on ? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Are you sure you have the speaker polarity right on all the speakers? This will cancel the bass.

Also, Do you have aircon? This will sound really dumb but if you have your windows down as it is really hot then bass will be lost..

I dound the stock Clarion unit to have diddly squat in the way of bass. But even with a better HU and a sub I still find the coop lacking in very low bass <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

polarity is correct, windows up for testing <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
bockers - thats a shame maybe i;ll just have to live with it then, its not bad...

does anyone know how to access the EQ on the clarion? theres a button for it but it doesnt appear to do anything when pressed or held a few secs.

The EQ button onle works if you have the add-on eq unit, which I have never seen and doubt Fiat ever stocked them. They are a din sized unit so there is nowhere to put it anyway.

John

ah, well thats ok, i was more concerned someone had it setup strangely and then broken it so it couldnt be altered.

If you want bass try this,

http://www.fiatcoupeclub.org/forum/...2811&an=0&page=1#Post112
I hope this link works otherwise you should be able to hunt it down.

stealth sub looks like a great project, may well do that, dont suppose any of the wiring is already in place ?

Wiring in place <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> You muse be joking <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

The coupe is however very easy to re-wire.

ive already had the seats out when i replaced the standard speakers.. was hoping to avoid doing it again! the car is a bit of a sahara desert simulator in this weather <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Oh yes don't I know, even vacuming the car when my new matts arrived was hell <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />

lol bock your a funny guy

Solution - i fitted spacers (~1 inch) and removed the foam cone that sits behind the woofer in the door card.

Bass is much more extended now, its not terribly deep but its a much fuller sound.

now i need decent grilles as the standard ones restrict the woofers travel, and the ones that come with the alpines are pretty ugly (would look fine in a scoob <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ) and dont suit the coop at all.

Dan
What did you make the spacers from and did you angle the speakers up? I have thought about making some MDF spacers specifically for the Coupe with an angle too but have yet to buy a router <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

i used the spacers from the alpine speaker kit, i had to chop them up a bit and drill new holes in the door.

im sure you'd get away with using a jigsaw and a rough file to make a spacer, doesnt have to be pretty.

I didnt think of angling them up tbh.

still cant find any nice grilles, might be stuck with the alpine ones, they look a bit like giant monster teeth to me <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />