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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: dndavies] #1520690
07/01/2015 21:29
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This is tragic, so you want a picture of the carpet interior, back bumper (where about please?) your not worth it.

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: dndavies] #1520702
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I have to ask in the pictures is that a 68 charger? Se or r/t model v8? the coup look nice.

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: dndavies] #1520706
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Yeah it's a 68 charger, just a 383.. No rt or se edition. Think the se edition was only in the 69

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: ] #1520709
07/01/2015 22:18
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Originally Posted By: carlt
Wheres the vin tag??



Looks like it might be here
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and the following pic, no.73.


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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: Edinburgh] #1520714
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Since the slam panel is in prep stage presumably the VIN tag came off prior to full respray and has not been replaced/been mislaid.

Originally Posted By: sebasteeno
Clueless no. Show a picture of the overspray on the window rubbers. Show a picture of the scratch on the back bumper. Show a picture of the poorly fitted carpet on the passenger side door. Tell everyone about the wiper pump which didn't work. I won't continue but there's more to add to the list that I felt didn't class it as a mint car which it was advertised as.


IMHO these items are not major ones - perhaps not a "minter" but mostly cosmetic. The rest of the car is giving a good impression of being attractive whilst not showing potential rust areas like the boot.
The clutch was a bit of a bummer though and more likely to be the deal breaker.


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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: dndavies] #1520719
07/01/2015 22:39
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The VIN plate looks to have been removed whilst the slam panel was being refurbed, although the stickers have been taped over (the one on the left with a load of E numbers, the one on the right with yellow warning pictures for something or other). The VIN plate could just as easily been taped over unless it was rusty underneath. If the VIN plate has been lost however then that is a very big mistake IMHO.


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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: DaveG] #1520720
07/01/2015 22:52
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Originally Posted By: DaveG
The VIN plate looks to have been removed whilst the slam panel was being refurbed, although the stickers have been taped over (the one on the left with a load of E numbers, the one on the right with yellow warning pictures for something or other). The VIN plate could just as easily been taped over unless it was rusty underneath. If the VIN plate has been lost however then that is a very big mistake IMHO.


Agree, not having the original VIN plate would put me off quite bit, bit like a red key thing, effectively inconsequential, but constantly nagging at back of mind.


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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: dndavies] #1520779
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Please keep personal comments out of this thread. By all means exchange questions and answers about the car, but any more "he said - she said" will result in action being taken.

Thank you.

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: dndavies] #1520847
09/01/2015 03:20
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She looks beautiful to me, and seems like a fair price.


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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: dndavies] #1520968
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I may well be interested in this dndavies, can I just clear a few things up though? I'm not worried about a bit of overspray if there is any, but how badly does the clutch slip, would I be able to get it home to birmingham? Also is the price dropped accordingly? I'm not worried about the wiper pump but are there any other things, I'm not getting Into the he said..etc it looks mighty fine to me, just it would be a fair drive to come and take a look, thanks..

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: ] #1520975
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Originally Posted By: soopcoop
I may well be interested in this dndavies, can I just clear a few things up though? I'm not worried about a bit of overspray if there is any, but how badly does the clutch slip, would I be able to get it home to birmingham? Also is the price dropped accordingly? I'm not worried about the wiper pump but are there any other things, I'm not getting Into the he said..etc it looks mighty fine to me, just it would be a fair drive to come and take a look, thanks..


If the clutch is slipping a bit, or all the time - It needs changing,

I have read this thread right through, And agree with the OP, It seems like a witch hunt! Give him a break, I have Viewed/bought dozens of Coupes, Some from FCCUK members - Some had epic defects not advertised, I just walked away and took it on the chin, Some I bought & STILL took it on the chin, These are old cars & if you want MINT, pay £5000+ or buy a 2011 car that isnt a Coupe,..

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: chrissy] #1520978
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Originally Posted By: chrissy
Originally Posted By: soopcoop
I may well be interested in this dndavies, can I just clear a few things up though? I'm not worried about a bit of overspray if there is any, but how badly does the clutch slip, would I be able to get it home to birmingham? Also is the price dropped accordingly? I'm not worried about the wiper pump but are there any other things, I'm not getting Into the he said..etc it looks mighty fine to me, just it would be a fair drive to come and take a look, thanks..


If the clutch is slipping a bit, or all the time - It needs changing,

I have read this thread right through, And agree with the OP, It seems like a witch hunt! Give him a break, I have Viewed/bought dozens of Coupes, Some from FCCUK members - Some had epic defects not advertised, I just walked away and took it on the chin, Some I bought & STILL took it on the chin, These are old cars & if you want MINT, pay £5000+ or buy a 2011 car that isnt a Coupe,..




I wasn't having a go at all! I agree with the OP too! I realise the clutch will need replacing, I just wondering how bad it was and if I'd be able to drive it the 150 odd miles back to birmingham to get it done.

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: chrissy] #1520995
09/01/2015 23:06
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Originally Posted By: chrissy
These are old cars & if you want MINT, pay £5000+ or buy a 2011 car that isnt a Coupe,..



laugh I'd have been tempted with this Broom being scond only to Sprint. If anyone is worried ask to get JBT or another specialist to check it over. To hassle the OP seems unfair, I'd have pulled the ad by now.


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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: ] #1521019
10/01/2015 01:04
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Originally Posted By: soopcoop
I may well be interested in this dndavies, can I just clear a few things up though? I'm not worried about a bit of overspray if there is any, but how badly does the clutch slip, would I be able to get it home to birmingham? Also is the price dropped accordingly? I'm not worried about the wiper pump but are there any other things, I'm not getting Into the he said..etc it looks mighty fine to me, just it would be a fair drive to come and take a look, thanks..


The clutch will happily get you to Birmingham, only under boost in 3rd it go's

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: Roadking] #1521023
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Originally Posted By: Roadking
Originally Posted By: chrissy
These are old cars & if you want MINT, pay £5000+ or buy a 2011 car that isnt a Coupe,..



laugh I'd have been tempted with this Broom being scond only to Sprint. If anyone is worried ask to get JBT or another specialist to check it over. To hassle the OP seems unfair, I'd have pulled the ad by now.


Haha, trust me I have felt like pulling the Ad. But if I do... It will probably start a bigger witch hunt off. Started to wish I'd paid the 12 pound for eBay rather than the free Ad here ha ha

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: dndavies] #1521176
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some peoples idea of mint condition differs from someone elses idea of mint condition.I personally don't like the word mint a totally mint car to me is a brand new car.I must admit the car looks great in the pictures and it does look very clean any anybody that goes looking for a genuine totally mint coupe for £2500 is in dream land.I was going to buy duffys old car it the price dropped to £4500 that was a very clean car so surely this car is worth £2200 even with a duff clutch looks a good buy to me

dndavies Coupe For Sale Discussion Thread #1521177
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I have moved all posts to here, as they shouldn't be in the Coupes For Sale thread.

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Re: dndavies Coupe For Sale Discussion Thread [Re: dndavies] #1521199
11/01/2015 12:17
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Originally Posted By: dndavies
Haha, trust me I have felt like pulling the Ad. But if I do... It will probably start a bigger witch hunt off. Started to wish I'd paid the 12 pound for eBay rather than the free Ad here ha ha


Don't be put off! Your car looks stunning. As baz says though, I'd use the word "mint" with a bit more caution in future.


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Re: dndavies Coupe For Sale Discussion Thread [Re: Theresa] #1521207
11/01/2015 13:07
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Mint to me means showroom condition.

In classic car circles that means faultless.

Must admit, nice looking car though.

Re: dndavies Coupe For Sale Discussion Thread [Re: Theresa] #1521232
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I think the car looks great. Not too far from me as well!!

This missus would not be impressed if I bought another!! rolleyes

Re: dndavies Coupe For Sale Discussion Thread [Re: Theresa] #1521235
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The car is obviously not mint but in my opinion well worth the price tag

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: ] #1521237
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Originally Posted By: baz4205
some peoples idea of mint condition differs from someone elses idea of mint condition.I personally don't like the word mint a totally mint car to me is a brand new car.I must admit the car looks great in the pictures and it does look very clean any anybody that goes looking for a genuine totally mint coupe for £2500 is in dream land.I was going to buy duffys old car it the price dropped to £4500 that was a very clean car so surely this car is worth £2200 even with a duff clutch looks a good buy to me

My bro lives in Hull, this car is in Swansea, I rang about the car to be told the car was MINT. Not my choice of words but the sellers. My bro draws the cash from the bank, gets a mate to take him which is a full day there and back and 500 miles, he also transfers his insurance over from his previous Coupe. When my brother arrived he thought yeah looks great and the seller takes him for a spin without pushing it. My bro then has a drive and having owned a Coupe 20VT that was in fine fettle till loss of compression knows how they drive. He puts his foot down in third gear and the clutch slips to his massive disappointment. The seller offers £150 off but we know its a £400 job as he had one done on his previous Coupe. Now did the seller know this and was chancing it hoping a buyer wouldn't floor it or was it new to him? Only the seller knows. Then my bro starts noticing other little things that make it less than mint too and decided to walk away with a day wasted and £80+ costs of fuel in the bin plus the cost of changing insurance (£30)

Now if you guys think that this Coupe is good value at £2200 with a knackered clutch, no Vin plate, hardly any MOT and questionable integrity of the seller then go for it. Both me and my brother are glad he didn't though


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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: Theresa] #1521241
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Can't disagree on clutch issue, that is naughty and I'd be pretty disappointed too.

On the mint issue, I still think unless you've seen a worklog detailing every area of the car and it's condition (...duffys old Coupe!) then any expectations of a true minter are naive, regardless of what the seller says.

As previously mentioned, people say mint all the time which can mean anything from extremely good to showroom. Eyes not ears smile


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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: Theresa] #1521354
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It's a tough time of the year to be selling any car let alone a coupe.

Might be worth holding off until spring/early summer.

Good luck.


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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: Carlscott] #1521384
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Originally Posted By: Carlscott
It's a tough time of the year to be selling any car let alone a coupe.

Might be worth holding off until spring/early summer.

Good luck.


Yeah I know, trying to sell it over christmas is a bad idea. I know it would be from the start. I want it gone by April as I'll have a mortgage going through around that time and I looking for a bit more for the deposit. Thanks for the luck though!!

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: dndavies] #1521455
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I've just sold my mint 98 20vt,no issues at all,full service history,recent belt changes etc,£1300.This was after numerous 500-600 quid offers,i actually feel 'relieved' to have sold it for £1300.I paid 1200 for it,spent at least a grand on it.Took me two months to sell it.This will give you a comparison for the car being discussed here and its £2200 price.

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: ] #1521457
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Congrates on the sale Robbo, sorry you only got £1300.
Bit surprised you only managed to spend a total of £2200 on it!! laugh


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Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: Theresa] #1521465
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This car is easily worth what the buyer is asking. A low mileage example in a very desirable colour.
Stick a clutch in it, sort a few niggles and it's a 3k car all day long in my eyes.

I think there are certain colours that struggle to sell even with big jobs done.

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I've spent more than this on a Coupe and it still needed work. No one is going to find a mint coupe at this price. I think the OP got the price right for what it is.

Re: 1998 20v Turbo £2500 [Re: Theresa] #1521492
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The word "MINT" raised its head again and a mint one selling for £1300 well the buyer must have goy a bargain then.I have a year old bmw 3series coupe msport with 10000 miles on the clock I would not describe that car as mint due to a mark on one wheel as I said before some peoples idea of mint and and my idea of mint are miles apart.Surely a clean good mileage coupe without any issues is worth £3000 I think the seller has priced it right considering clutch. I am quite surprised it has not sold but this discussion cant be helping with any sale good luck with the sale

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